Time to face facts?

Are our coaching staff up to the job?


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Im not saying Howard is top level, not at all, hes a fairly good keeper, which these days is hard to find. We cant be throwing money around on keepers. Sunderland paid £10m for Gordon, its only now hes starting to look like a half decent keeper.

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Im not saying Howard is top level, not at all, hes a fairly good keeper, which these days is hard to find. We cant be throwing money around on keepers. Sunderland paid £10m for Gordon, its only now hes starting to look like a half decent keeper.

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I agree with you Goat..........what we need is a decent reserve keeper................the only extra thing that could go wrong this season for me is a Howard injury or red card..............Carlo Nash couldn't make Wigans third team and that scares me. Last night TH was the only player to show any passion whatsoever:(
 
I agree with you Goat..........what we need is a decent reserve keeper................the only extra thing that could go wrong this season for me is a Howard injury or red card..............Carlo Nash couldn't make Wigans third team and that scares me. Last night TH was the only player to show any passion whatsoever:(

Howard commands his area like a bally dancer amidst MMA fighters.
It's time he ran up to one of our defenders and deafened him like Peter Schmeichel used to.
 
Howard commands his area like a bally dancer amidst MMA fighters.
It's time he ran up to one of our defenders and deafened him like Peter Schmeichel used to.


So you'd be happy to see Tim go and Nash in goal ffs BB at least Howard is committed to EFC, he does a decent job despite your ongoing criticism of him.....................there are very few I'd replace him with and even then we couldn't afford them as our funds are desparately needed in other positions as you are well aware:)
 

So you'd be happy to see Tim go and Nash in goal ffs BB at least Howard is committed to EFC, he does a decent job despite your ongoing criticism of him.....................there are very few I'd replace him with and even then we couldn't afford them as our funds are desparately needed in other positions as you are well aware:)

No, but I would prefer Howard to step his game up and control his defense with more passion.
Last nights defeat is nothing to do with Howard, but he isn't void of blame this season either.
 
No, but I would prefer Howard to step his game up and control his defense with more passion.
Last nights defeat is nothing to do with Howard, but he isn't void of blame this season either.

Tbh BB if comes to apportioning blame this season Tim Howard is at the back of the queue mate:)
 

Tim Howard does actually do a very decent job of commanding his area, especially compared to a lot of other keepers in this league. Time and again I have said I would rather take Tim Howards record over any keeper in the prem, including the top four. To many times when there is a mix up in the area it is 99% of the time assumed it was the keeper that is not communicating/commanding his area. Just because a commentator says it on the telly does not mean its what happened! Running up to a defender and balling them out, whats that gonna achieve? Shmikes did it, but you ask Pallister and Bruce they never took it seriously! Howard does shout at his defense, and he directs players when needed, you can see it as the game goes on.

We have a better keeper than Arsenal, Cech would be found out playing for a team lower down that Chelsea. Given makes some excellent saves and also makes some easy saves look excellent, but, and I know some people may not agree with me, he is rooted to his line. Watch a full replay of the City/Birmingham clash and I promise you he hardly came for anything, if anything at all. Howard on the other hand makes some unbelievable saves when he needs to, not because he wants too. These last ditch one on one saves are the things that win games and Howard has made plenty of those in his time here that some people forget because its not spectacular.

Keepers like Given make the saves we all remember. Dont get me wrong I think Given is brilliant, but I actually believe we have an awesome all round package of a goalkeeper and were damn lucky to have him. That save he made last night after needing to reposition after the ball coming back off the post was all down to hours and hours of hard work off the field and shows dedication to a cause!

We do not need a replacement for Howard. I totally agree with Monty, who by the way it is excellent news to see you well and posting, Howard would be at the back of the que for criticism! We need a good number two but will be hard to find as no one will fancy their chances of unseating him as number one, who will want to sit on the bench and wait for a chance that will come once in a blue moon? Ever wondered why we cant attract a decent number two?

The only facts we need to face is we have an injury list as long as the Kirkby thread and that is a huge baring on how we are playing right now. Our second string is not good enough.
 
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