Tim Howard

[Dithering Dougie]

You are a troll,DD.

Malicious undertones, my foot. Howard was a good keeper once upon a time but for years he's been poor
and sometimes diabolical. Now it seems the whole world knows it except you and DM.

I'm a troll because I have a different opinion than you? Because I look at the bigger picture? Because I look at the facts and am not prepared to jump on some bandwagon? Because I don't bow down to peer group pressure or bullying?

In case it's escaped your attention I'm not the only person on here who believes Howard is unfairly treated, so it's me and whoever DM is, and plenty of others actually.

 

[Dithering Dougie]

Oh really? Please then explain what you meant by "malicious undertones"?

I really don't need to explain myself to you Charles if you can't comprehend that's your problem. But jumping the shark like that and bringing race into the debate is very low.

 

[ijjysmith]

I thnk @Dithering Dougie has played us all exceptionally. Had me early doors but i'm quite simple.

Well played my man. Also, did you know there was a @Dithering Dave on here? Bet he hates Howard.

 

[Charlie Sweet]

I really don't need to explain myself to you Charles if you can't comprehend that's your problem. But jumping the shark like that and bringing race into the debate is very low.

You can't kid a kidder.

You suggested there were malicious undertones to the anti-Howard brigade. Given that the "anti-Howard" group now constitutes a good majority of Evertonians I think we've a right to know what you're accusing us of. If it isn't racism then what is it? Making a big thing of it and then deftly refusing to expand on the matter is frankly ridiculous.

 

[Dithering Dougie]

I thnk @Dithering Dougie has played us all exceptionally. Had me early doors but i'm quite simple.

Well played my man. Also, did you know there was a @Dithering Dave on here? Bet he hates Howard.

I think @Dithering Dave was some bodies idea of a joke he never posts, I did follow him for a bit but at best he's a lurker mate.

 

[Dithering Dougie]

You can't kid a kidder.

You suggested there were malicious undertones to the anti-Howard brigade. Given that the "anti-Howard" group now constitutes a good majority of Evertonians I think we've a right to know what you're accusing us of. If it isn't racism then what is it? Making a big thing of it and then deftly refusing to expand on the matter is frankly ridiculous.

Charles you're the one taking this off topic and "making a big thing about it" not me.

 

[ijjysmith]

I think @Dithering Dave was some bodies idea of a joke he never posts, I did follow him for a bit but at best he's a lurker mate.

That is disappointing news.

 

[Charlie Sweet]

Charles you're the one taking this off topic and "making a big thing about it" not me.

No Doug - you're the one who first brought this up (below). Not me. You're accusing a vast majority now of fellow Blues of having something "malicious" at play in forming their opinions on Howard. That's a pretty low thing to do. I absolutely believe you are referring to Howard's skin colour as I cannot fathom any other angle but I'm happy to be corrected.

Yeah I remember Reidy got some stick as his time with us came to an end but it never reached the level of stuff Howard's getting.

As someone else mentioned Ratcliffe took his share as well and I remember Sharpy getting it, maybe it was the disappointment of seeing former greats fall from grace but it was certainly more frustration than vitriol with malicious undertones.

 

[Jacko93]

Where does the term malicious undertones reference race?

 

[Jacko93]

I agree with DD on this point. In the past players were called out on their capabilities, 'your not good enough' ' You legs have gone' etc etc....... Some of the things I have seen posted on social media and on occasion hurled at Howard during a game, I would suggest are very much so, and increasingly malicious.

If I was at work and the job I was doing was poor and substandard, then I am all for being called out on it by my manager, colleagues and my peers. I can do something about that and try to please them again, or realise that my time has passed an move on under mutual agreement. However what I wouldn't expect would be for them to call me out on my personality traits, or deliberately verbally attack me and my close friends/family, with intent to upset. Malicious intent to cause upset.

There is nobody, regardless of level of current form or a ability that deserves some of the vitriol that Howard has recieved on social media from 'Blues'.

Howard has been poor of late. Many choose to tell him, which is fine, it is the way in which he is told that I have issue with.

 

[Toffeelover]

I agree with DD on this point. In the past players were called out on their capabilities, 'your not good enough' ' You legs have gone' etc etc....... Some of the things I have seen posted on social media and on occasion hurled at Howard during a game, I would suggest are very much so, and increasingly malicious.

If I was at work and the job I was doing was poor and substandard, then I am all for being called out on it by my manager, colleagues and my peers. I can do something about that and try to please them again, or realise that my time has passed an move on under mutual agreement. However what I wouldn't expect would be for them to call me out on my personality traits, or deliberately verbally attack me and my close friends/family, with intent to upset. Malicious intent to cause upset.

There is nobody, regardless of level of current form or a ability that deserves some of the vitriol that Howard has recieved on social media from 'Blues'.

Howard has been poor of late. Many choose to tell him, which is fine, it is the way in which he is told that I have issue with.

Send him an Email?

 

[Skeleton Crew]

Send him an Email?

We prefer skywriting over here..
for example:

 

[bignev23]

Southall was on Talksport before saying Tim should be dropped and robles should be given a chance for at least a few weeks. He never stated where he should be dropped from but A block of highrise flats would be my choice.

He was also backing Martinez.

 

[Screech]

Tim is black?!

His father was African American. Only real physical distinction he has that points to having a black parent is his hair here http://media2.onsugar.com/files/2014/07/02/748/n/1922398/2d5831e95eeb6528_51702134.xxxlarge.jpg

 

[Chang Elephant]

Seems something touched a nerve here Charles.
What a very peculiar post considering I've never mentioned Howard's race or implied any abuse aimed at him has anything to do with his race either.

So you're saying it's skin pigmentation and sexuality that makes a good or bad goalkeeper?

Oh Douglas