This is not a blip

[jtl60]

I was thinking last night, if you put the whole Moyes & Martinez period together and had a squad of every player who has played for the club during those years. A big chunk of them were playing in the home defeat to Leicester at the weekend.

Coleman, Stones, Baines, Barry, Gerri, Lukaku, Barkley, all 7 of them would be in 'the best' line up for me. Add Martyn, Jags, Arteta and Rooney, perhaps find a slot for Cahill .

It just aint good enough!

 

[ijjysmith]

Whats your 1st eleven with everyone fit?

Depends on the opposition my friend. Something mr Martnez sadly doesn't agree with me on very often.

 

[oldblue]

I think RM has done well to build such a squad with a fraction of the money spent by Utd, City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal. We have a slick team who are destroying the majority of teams we play against but are are lacking the killer instinct which Im sure RM is desperately trying to figure out. Admittedly 2 of the most disappointing games were home to City and Utd when we should have done better but those 2 games and the one away to Arsenal are probably the only 3 games that we haven't been the better team. And we were playing against teams that cost 3 times what ours did.
He built the team, now let him fine tune it.
A decent keeper would help massively though!

Pretty much how I'm seeing things at the moment. There are some hefty conclusions being made on the back of four games in which we deserved to walk away with ten to twelve points. Take each in isolation and there are reasons we didn't; poor finishing at Norwich, lack of concentration at Bournemouth and a strange bit of refereeing, a bit of anxiety at Leicester maybe because of three draws plus all three goals could have easily been not given, (even reds that I know said absolutely everything went Leicester's way), and Palace was one of the best performances I've seen at home in recent years but they were as solid as I've seen a team and we did hit the post twice. None of these games indicate we are a mediocre side or that there is a clear pattern the manager is missing (maybe Howard apart).
But this isn't a blue tinted view of things it's just that the same problems were there when thrashing Southampton and Sunderland. And those of us saying don't get carried away then are probably the same people saying to calm down now.
The four or five players capable of getting us off our seats would probably not be doing this under Moyes. He was a good manager but we've bought into a change of style and even when frustrating it's been enjoyable. I wasn't sure this style was working this time last year but he's shown he can be pragmatic. We need to wait and see if he continues to and if these players can find leadership and a bit of ruthlessness.
A lot of this frustration is very similar to what was being said 83/4 and people wanted half the team gone because they weren't clinical. Watch this space. I've got a really good feeling about this team and I think a new manager would change that.

 

[Zatara]

Robles
Coleman
Jagielka
Stones
Coleman
McCarthy
Barry
Cleverley
Barkley
Deulofeu
Lukaku

Thats mine...behind that theres really no players id have in the starting line up at the moment, Mori and Galloway are adapting and developing and Mirallas seems "already gone".

Depends on the opposition my friend. Something mr Martnez sadly doesn't agree with me on very often.

 

[sixtynineseventy]

Coleman playing both right back and left back?