Transfer Rumour Thiago Silva

[Papa Shango]

Gbamin was a 23 year old with 'resale value' and he hasn't managed to play two games. Iwobi was a 23 year old with 'resale value' and he's managed 18 games and been crap in all of them. The two of them cost 50 million combined before you even start to consider the cost of their wages.

This is more like United bringing in Henrik Larrson when he was 35 years old and proved to be an overwhelming success for them. We will get a good year out of him, maybe two. He might not start every game but I bet you he is way better than the likes of Funes Mori, Alcatraz, Williams or Keane.

Yeah spot on.

We can sign young players and they can be crap too.

There is nothing wrong with having an old head in the squad. Imagine what Holgate for example could learn from a player like Thiago Silva. Or Mina for that matter who is still fairly young himself.

 

[TheBigIguana]

Gbamin was a 23 year old with 'resale value' and he hasn't managed to play two games. Iwobi was a 23 year old with 'resale value' and he's managed 18 games and been crap in all of them. The two of them cost 50 million combined before you even start to consider the cost of their wages.

This is more like United bringing in Henrik Larrson when he was 35 years old and proved to be an overwhelming success for them. We will get a good year out of him, maybe two. He might not start every game but I bet you he is way better than the likes of Funes Mori, Alcatraz, Williams or Keane.

United signed Larsson on a 3 month loan

 

[tommye]

United signed Larsson on a 3 month loan

Name one defender in the current Everton squad who is better than Thiago Silva.

Go...

 

[TheBigIguana]

Name one defender in the current Everton squad who is better than Thiago Silva.

Go...

Maybe all of them?

I mean that's the thing that worries me about it. Do we really know what 36 year old Thiago Silva playing at a faster pace then he has in his career thus far week in, week out for a couple months is going to look like?

I know that 5 years ago this isn't a question but it isn't 5 years ago.

 

[tommye]

Maybe all of them?

I mean that's the thing that worries me about it. Do we really know what 36 year old Thiago Silva playing at a faster pace then he has in his career thus far week in, week out for a couple months is going to look like?

I know that 5 years ago this isn't a question but it isn't 5 years ago.

Not a single one comes near.

Absolute clown you pal.
I think the footy might not be for you.

 

[Pat Butcher]

Him & Godin I love, personally would rather Godin but Silva is amazing

 

[tommye]

Him & Godin I love, personally would rather Godin but Silva is amazing

But not as good as Micky Kegs apparently.



I'm going to bed, think I'm delirious.

 

[TheBigIguana]

Not a single one comes near.

Absolute clown you pal.
I think the footy might not be for you.

It's like asking who is better Calvert-Lewin or Cavani? I'm not taking Dom if they're both in their prime, but both aren't in their prime in 2020.

I'm not pretending I watch PSG all the time, but I don't get the impression Silva is the same guy he was when they signed him from Milan, which btw was when Moyes was still our manager.

But sure footy isn't for me because I have the outrageous idea that players get old.

 

[tommye]

It's like asking who is better Calvert-Lewin or Cavani? I'm not taking Dom if they're both in their prime, but both aren't in their prime in 2020.

I'm not pretending I watch PSG all the time, but I don't get the impression Silva is the same guy he was when they signed him from Milan, which btw was when Moyes was still our manager.

But sure footy isn't for me because I have the outrageous idea that players get old.

I ain't arguing with a fella who types this, reads it back, and then still posts it.

Maybe all of them?

I'm done here.
You're a buffoon

 

[Papa Shango]

Maybe all of them?

I mean that's the thing that worries me about it. Do we really know what 36 year old Thiago Silva playing at a faster pace then he has in his career thus far week in, week out for a couple months is going to look like?

I know that 5 years ago this isn't a question but it isn't 5 years ago.

There is no magic age for a player turning crap. Some last longer than others, some go early.

For every Ginola there is a Power, for every Gascoigne there is a Gough.

If we are signing him then it's not like we were are going in blindly is it? Ancelotti knows him from his time at PSG so will know what he can and can't do.

It's would obviously be a managers signing so maybe we should give one of the top managers in the world the benefit of the doubt if it happens?

 

[TheBigIguana]

I ain't arguing with a fella who types this, reads it back, and then still posts it.


I'm done here.
You're a buffoon

It's fine. Silva will sign for us, play average for a year and then go back to Brazil and chase a Libertadores before he retires. Or he won't sign with us and you can take your pick of him signing for another dumb mid-table team futilely chasing quick glory, a good team looking for a bit of depth or a smaller league team looking for publicity. And in a couple of years he retires and regardless of the path we still need to spend money on a long term CB after we haven't won anything in the next two seasons.

I mean you don't think adding Thiago Silva to the team puts us in the CL next year do you? So what is the point?

 

[TheBigIguana]

There is no magic age for a player turning crap. Some last longer than others, some go early.

For every Ginola there is a Power, for every Gascoigne there is a Gough.

If we are signing him then it's not like we were are going in blindly is it? Ancelotti knows him from his time at PSG so will know what he can and can't do.

It's would obviously be a managers signing so maybe we should give one of the top managers in the world the benefit of the doubt if it happens?

Carlo's last game as manager of PSG was the same day as Moyes last game in charge here. It has been awhile.

I'm trying to think of players even close to 35 who haven't dropped off a fair bit. All I've got is Milner. I think it is more of a risk than you're suggesting.

And for me Brands signs the players. If Moshiri is letting Carlo go over Brands and do stuff then Brands should just leave. No point in having a DOF who doesn't get to do his job. The idea of the manager making some signings and Brands making some needs to go though.

 

[tommye]

It's fine. Silva will sign for us, play average for a year and then go back to Brazil and chase a Libertadores before he retires. Or he won't sign with us and you can take your pick of him signing for another dumb mid-table team futilely chasing quick glory, a good team looking for a bit of depth or a smaller league team looking for publicity. And in a couple of years he retires and regardless of the path we still need to spend money on a long term CB after we haven't won anything in the next two seasons.

I mean you don't think adding Thiago Silva to the team puts us in the CL next year do you? So what is the point?

Goodnight mate...

 

[TheBigIguana]

Goodnight mate...

Thanks for the well thought out responses mate. Always a pleasure.

 

[Papa Shango]

Carlo's last game as manager of PSG was the same day as Moyes last game in charge here. It has been awhile.

I'm trying to think of players even close to 35 who haven't dropped off a fair bit. All I've got is Milner. I think it is more of a risk than you're suggesting.

And for me Brands signs the players. If Moshiri is letting Carlo go over Brands and do stuff then Brands should just leave. No point in having a DOF who doesn't get to do his job. The idea of the manager making some signings and Brands making some needs to go though.

Honestly I feel like you are moaning for moanings sake here although I get what you are saying there are reasons to be optimistic about the prospect.

Of course the manager is going to have a say on a player he knows. He will have links to him, more than likely still keeps in touch with him and will know where is up to in terms of if he can still perfom. This is one of the best managers on earth we are talking about here. Its one player and he would more than likely come in and be his captain for a year or two.

The risk is lessened purely from what I have just said there. It's not a blind signing.

Age is used far too much these days as a reason not to sign players. If you are good enough you are young enough etc.

Zlatan was a success for United, even our very own Phil Jagielka was of a decent standard until his last year here when he was what, 35? And he wasn't as good as Silva was. Sheringham and Giggs went up to their 40s. Holebas of Watford is 35 and I think he still plays well too.

We also still have two pretty young cenre backs in Mina (always struggling to stay fit) and Holgate, Keane is still an England international (somehow) and Branthwaite is coming through. A player like Silva is ideal to bridge that gap whilst Branthwaite develops more whilst still being able to offer experience and leadership (which we do lack) to the first team.

We can still sign other players.