The 'what are they saying on MNF' thread

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kenada_blue said:
Keane and Williams (who was making nothing but thin air) got bossed by Chris Wood. Both got bossed by Barnes all game.

To blame Pickford for small bits of his game that he needs to improve for their ineptitude isn't correct imo.

Look at the first goal. What premier league defence allows a straight ball through a channel go past them? Then blame Pickford for not being Emerson or De Gea and being a yard or two off his line?

Pickford has kept scorelines respectable all season while those two clowns look like sunday league players.

Keane and Williams don't talk to each other or the defence. Williams doesn't organise. Keane isn't vocal. There's evidence of this all season when we've been an utter mess.
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I agree there are problems with our defence of course there is....

But Pickford has to improve it is so important he commands his six yard box from corners, we look like conceding at every corner....

He is young & will get better but can't believe he is so weak in the air as this should be a basic keepers skill...
 
Khalekan said:
I thought Carragher spoke like the Evertonian that still breathes beneath the surface.

When asked is Sam had “done the job he was was brought in to do” he said “no”.

He said about how Sam had an opportunity to show he was much more than a relegation battler and could have tried to show enough to keep the job into next season and prove himself at the biggest club he has ever managed.

Carra said about Sam comparing us to other clubs he has been at and said that “Everton aren’t Sunderland”.

He mentioned it was the things Sam said as much as his tactics which were annoying Evertonians.....and chuckled when he told how Sam told his players to follow the Swansea blueprint versus Arsenal.

Then he said Evertonians did not think settling for a scoreless draw at Watford and warming Schneiderlin up just before they scored was good enough....that he should have been making a progressive change to try and win the game.

Not a fan of Sam, is Mr. Carragher :)
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Took a page and a bit to get something substantial. Thank you.
 
Khalekan said:
...and warming Schneiderlin up just before they scored was good enough...
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Delighted that even pundits are picking up on stuff like this. Total fraud, trying to nick draws to get the club to safety so he can disappear with a decent pay off and the ability to say "I was successful there".

Allardyce for England, for me.
 

marcus said:
I agree there are problems with our defence of course there is....

But Pickford has to improve it is so important he commands his six yard box from corners, we look like conceding at every corner....

He is young & will get better but can't believe he is so weak in the air as this should be a basic keepers skill...
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I find it completely baffling that the person beating the Allardyce drum in the face of all evidence is the same person digging out a young goalkeeper who has, at times single-handedly, won us a number of points this season. I was at the Burnley game and although Pickford could have done better with the goals he was being bombarded in the second half because of some inexplicable managerial decisions and some woeful defending. You need to get some perspective.
 
marcus said:
I agree there are problems with our defence of course there is....

But Pickford has to improve it is so important he commands his six yard box from corners, we look like conceding at every corner....

He is young & will get better but can't believe he is so weak in the air as this should be a basic keepers skill...
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Pickford was at fault for both goals, but imagine having that defence in front of you.

At Burnley he had :

A league one standard right back, playing at left back.
A young centre half who looks like he needs his mum on the pitch with him at all times.
An over the hill, can`t be arsed, here for the pay day, centre half.

A dinosaur of a manager, who keeps changing the centre halves every game, regardless of form.

He was bound to have an off day at some point, with all that lot going on around him.
 
sageyefc said:
Literally no one has suggested that.




And Keane is utter gash, crap player, weak mentality, boot him out the club in the summer
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I don't know read a few comments on twitter and toffee web but I generally agree he wouldn't be the right man for the club, however still disagree with you on Keane.
 

DanEFC92 said:
Err no. Martinez was sacked because we were so poor defensively.

Could say any defensive signings we've made since Moyes left have been poor. Holgate aside.
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I meant as in when we had Moshiri. The stupidity of replacing Stones with Williams is ridiculous. We should of bought a young defender, or somebody like Jonny Evans instead of Williams. Our defence was poor under Martinez, but we knew how to attack. The problem is we can't do either. We just spent huge money on rubbish players, with the exception of Gueye and Pickford I think we've been ripped off on every one of the signings since Moshiri came in.
 
windymiller said:
I find it completely baffling that the person beating the Allardyce drum in the face of all evidence is the same person digging out a young goalkeeper who has, at times single-handedly, won us a number of points this season. I was at the Burnley game and although Pickford could have done better with the goals he was being bombarded in the second half because of some inexplicable managerial decisions and some woeful defending. You need to get some perspective.
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Pickford is young he has to learn, he has a long way to go before he is the finished product, pointing out & highlighting his weaknesses should help him in fact....

Allardyce should be left to see out the season to give a fair reflection on his performance a Everton imo....
 
COYBL25 said:
Pickford was at fault for both goals, but imagine having that defence in front of you.

At Burnley he had :

A league one standard right back, playing at left back.
A young centre half who looks like he needs his mum on the pitch with him at all times.
An over the hill, can`t be arsed, here for the pay day, centre half.

A dinosaur of a manager, who keeps changing the centre halves every game, regardless of form.

He was bound to have an off day at some point, with all that lot going on around him.
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Just want Pickford to improve his overall game, he needs telling cos I have said this all season in the Pickford thread....
He stays on his line at corners when we need him challenging & commanding his own box....
 
marcus said:
Just want Pickford to improve his overall game, he needs telling cos I have said this all season in the Pickford thread....
He stays on his line at corners when we need him challenging & commanding his own box....
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I don’t think he really knows what Keane and certainly Williams are gonna do half the time, so he chooses the safety of his line.
 

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