The Return of Hooliganism

No8Bally · February 9, 2022

Baines' left foot said:
It’s definitely on the increase.

Honest opinion; It’s a result of having a right wing government. Everything stems from there.

What an absolute load of twaddle.

PhilM · February 9, 2022

COYBL25 said:
I just don’t get why you’d take coke at the match.

Addiction and they like the high. The issue with the lemo, even more so than football, is that it gives them bravado. You can see it in a lot of people's eyes.

A young lad near me, who is actually a really nice lad, has dilated eyes at most games regardless of the time.

Alanbileysfeathercut · February 9, 2022

roydo said:
Its deffo weird. Some stand up comedian,and football supporter, on the radio earlier reckons that, post lockdown, too many folk have forgotten how to behave. He sees similar in comedy clubs. Not violence, but way more abusive and offensive "heckles".

Most comedians you see on various social media can be aggressive with the hunt for laughs,play with fire and all that.

Alanbileysfeathercut · February 9, 2022

COYBL25 said:
I just don’t get why you’d take coke at the match.

Better than Fanta.........

jaybx1878 · February 9, 2022

Alanbileysfeathercut said:
Pringle jumper.
Lee jeans.
Trim trabb.
Small club badge
Uniforms of the 80s.
Same back then

i know mate, but its like their scared to wear anything different apart from those couple of labels these days

roydo · February 9, 2022

Alanbileysfeathercut said:
Most comedians you see on various social media can be aggressive with the hunt for laughs,play with fire and all that.

Well, maybe. But if the tone of his act hasnt changed, but he experiences a more aggressive audience, what could explain that? His suggestion was what I posted. Granted, it could be a combo of all sorts.

Baines' left foot · February 9, 2022

No8Bally said:
What an absolute load of twaddle.

You’re a Tory voter I take it?

polish · February 9, 2022

jaybx1878 said:
young hoolies wearing the same outfit (stone island or cp overshirt, skinny jeans and adidas city series), think for yourselves lads ffs

Wasnt it the same in the 80's?

I'm familiar with the stories of Transalpino to Italy and football casuals/hooligans because they were inspiration to many of my older mates down here in Poland

No8Bally · February 9, 2022

Baines' left foot said:
You’re a Tory voter I take it?

none of your business

Alanbileysfeathercut · February 9, 2022

polish said:
Wasnt it the same in the 80's?

I'm familiar with the stories of Transalpino to Italy and football casuals/hooligans because they were inspiration to many of my older mates down here in Poland

Couldn't really afford the good stuff back then unless it was nicked.

PhilM · February 9, 2022

Did anyone go to the Victoria Ground? That was utter madness! You had to the dodge the bricks and bottles they'd casually throw at you on the way there.

Same with Bramall Lane and the under pass under the roundabout, where lumps of concrete would get launched down towards your head.

Togger Blue · February 9, 2022

I've been going to the match home & away for 60 years. There has been varying degrees of hooliganism during all that time. From brief recollections, WHU V EFC in the early 60's, we lost 1 nil, I wasn't there but the TV showed a Blue who invaded the pitch after the WHU goal & fought with the Met bizzies. Rangers at Goodison (1963), bottles getting chucked around, pissed up jocks everywhere. Man Utd away 1966 there was a load of fighting in the Stretford End at half time. WHU away 1968, a Monday night game we won 4-1, and the first time I ever left an away ground (still in mid teens) to be confronted by a mob - West Ham mods/skins waiting outside to attack those Blues who'd made the journey. Then it started to rack up around the country, 1969 away at Newcastle mid week, we won & a big mob bricked the Sunnyways & Crown coaches (I was on Home James & the driver did one just in time). So, on & on, getting worse at virtually every game into the 70's & 80's (attendances generally plummeted). It never ended, although the all seater & Police operations targeting the 'organisers' had an effect. Onto the smaller mobs who'd arrange stuff away from the ground. Anderlecht away in about 2002(?) in a pre season friendly - walked out of the ground, down some pokey exit path towards the road after the final whistle with my young son into a load of CS gas hovering in the air - apparently, we were told by others affected, that a load of our lot had bailed out early looking for trouble, attacked the Belgian police & went on a rampage. We've all heard tales of some of the things that have happened like the so-called 'Battle of Everton Valley', & infamously the relatively recent Millwall away game.
We've all read reports of foreign Ultras targeting supporters of English teams, usually the evening before a match in an unexpected attack on a bar - nothing to do with politics. Unfortunately if you love following any team it is inevitable there is a chance of trouble occurring near to you at some time, trying to avoid it means keeping your wits at all times & staying away from certain locations, not easy!
It doesn't matter who is in Government, hooligans love trouble. It's not rocket science though that evidence of increasing hooliganism coincides with less Police at matches, that is a result of politics, with less being available for footy policing due to a big reduction in Police numbers. The Cons may be in power now, but I doubt there would be much difference in Police staffing if Labour, LibDems or the Greens were in power.