The planned BBC strike

[Robert Jarvis]

And the BBC are on the government's pay roll,

Heavens how deluded can you get, but if you are not, remember the BBC were on the government payroll for the last 13 years.

 

[davek]

hey Dave give it a rest and calm down.

Dave I watched the labour conference and guess what they acted as though the last 13 years did not exist.

No they didn't - they hammered home the fact that under Labour public spending on stuff like Health and education went up; and there was an attack on poverty with the minimum wage, Sure Start, tax credits and winter fuel payments; they devolved power to Scotland, Wales and NI; brought in the Equalities and Human Rights Commission; brought in free tv licenses for over 70s...etc etc....

I think you'll find they acknowledged the last 13 years - warts'n'all - fully.

 

[dixie1928]

Who says what's fair? Sky can pay their staff more (presumably - I mean Sky staff aren't striking, BBC are so there must be a big gap or something) because Sky charge more for their telly. If the license fee went up then maybe BBC could pay their people more. Of course no one will want to do that so it's off to the mystical money tree or to the pickets we'll go.

It sadly reflects the intelligence of the average Union that this is the only bargaining chip they seem able to deploy.

Reminds me of a nice interview with the legendary Jack Welch

http://www.entrepreneur.com/article/217360



Sadly all many in heavily unionised industries seem capable of doing is bitching about it and bringing everyone else down with them.

You aren't very well, are you?

 

[chicoazul]

Heavens how deluded can you get, but if you are not, remember the BBC were on the government payroll for the last 13 years.

And were they forced to strike then?

Exactly mate.

 

[dixie1928]

As Nye Bevan said 65 years ago, the Tory party are lower than vermin. He was right.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Like your analogies but it falls down a bit mate, when you say "the BBC people all knew the salary when they took the job" is fine, and yes I agree with that but inflation and the course of time changes things badly. Who's the say all of those striking have been working there two years or less, unlikely. Unfortunately inflation also affects near enough every outgoing you have, all your bills, your food and drink and your bus ticket so wages need to rise accordingly. Which the Tories don't believe, they believe that putting a freeze on the working class wage can be covered by the cape of austerity. It can't.

Reign in the fat cats and the masses may start to listen.

Outsourcing is not the way forward exactly is it? I mean the railways, post office and such were all outsourced by the Tories for a quick buck. You can only sell your family jewels once mate.

I think what I'm trying to say is GET CHAVEZ IN.

It's a bit of an urban myth that well paid executives somehow take pay from those lower down the food chain

http://www.managers.org.uk/practica...ogs/does-well-paid-boss-lower-paid-underlings

It should also be said that very few people in the BBC are 'working class' so lets not fall into that particular bear trap. As I've said already, if these people are unhappy with their lot at the BBC why don't they apply for a job at Sky or ITV? If they are so good at their job surely there are plenty of better paid appointments out there?

Outsourcing has to be an option, of course it does. If the customer is willing to pay £x, then the salary of those employed to provide the customer with their product can only be £x times however many are sold, minus a bit for profit to reinvest.

Suffice to say I haven't pored over the BBC figures, but if staff want their wages to go up then income has to go up. At the moment it's like us fans expecting Peanuts et al to get big new contracts and then act outraged when ticket prices rise to pay for them.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

You aren't very well, are you?

As Nye Bevan said 65 years ago, the Tory party are lower than vermin. He was right.

From the man who has not refuted anything I've written other than having a pop at me and a general insult aimed at a group of politicians. If we're really competing for mental fortitude I'll take my chances thanks.

 

[little curly alan ball]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/oct/01/ed-miliband-bbc-strike

...the plan by the NUJ to strike and take the Tory Party conference off the screens is now condemned by Ed Miliband - the one in the pocket of the unions. Hmmm.

Where do you stand on this?

I say go ahead with the strike and take the evil-doers off the air - although they are good for a laugh when the backwoodsmen drag their knuckles to the lectern and call for the death penalty re-introduction. It's a tough one.

So much for Red Ed' , then ,....

 

[davek]

The strike has been suspended now.

Happy Bruce?

Oh no, you'll only be happy once the BBC is privatised and we have another channel full of reality shows and commercials.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Like The Apprentice and Strictly you mean?

To be honest I don't watch (tell a lie, I don't own a) tv as the majority of it is utter garbage, but when I did have one BBC was the best of a bad bunch. There are surely far better uses of time than sitting down in front of the ol' idiot box though. Like being on here talking about pasties and stuff.

 

[chicoazul]

Their nature documentaries are the rightest thing on this planet, that end's any argument of their supposed gashness.

Plus the lack of commercials, do you want them? You're so American Bruce, just so American.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Their nature documentaries are the rightest thing on this planet, that end's any argument of their supposed gashness.

Plus the lack of commercials, do you want them? You're so American Bruce, just so American.

Aye, Planet Earth was a fantastic series, as is most of their nature stuff. But apart from nature programs and lack of commercials, what has the BBC ever done for us?

 

[chicoazul]

Aye, Planet Earth was a fantastic series, as is most of their nature stuff. But apart from nature programs and lack of commercials, what has the BBC ever done for us?

Was Why Don't You on BBC?

I burped the worm at one of their Northern Irish girls once, I was 13 or something.