~ The Everton Online Collection ~

[bluebastardo]

Are you in that kinky clique?

I don't think so, but if it's kinky, I'm all ears.

 

[DENNIS STEVENS]

Dont forget, history is written by the victors not the vanquished. The accompanying bumf on that site is the take placed on events by Everton supporters involved in the Collection, and they're not about to concede anything to Houlding after 117 years!! The minute books themselves simply state two sides to the story and leave it at that...until all Houlding's men were routed from the committee by May 1892...and then their adversaries could record anything about the event!!

Ownership of the land the ground stood on was Houlding's and the committee knew this, there was no clandestine arrangement. Orrell came into the fray because the stands on one side of the pitch infringed on his property and he wanted remuneration...or the chance to sell the whole plot to the club for a few thousand...at which stage Houlding put it to the club that they could also buy his land too....or rent both his and Orrell's land (Orrell deffo wanted £120 pa...Houlding would then take what the club could afford for him by way of rent). The rental even if it were in excess of £300 would have been affordable for a club pulling in thousands per year. The club could have bought both Orrell's and Houlding's land for roughly the same price as it took to move to Goodison and build that ground from scratch.

That's the thing of all this: Liverpool should have just been the name of a city not a football club.

What it doesn't touch upon is the political element. On one side you had the Liberal's concerned about the evil's of drink & on the other the Conservatives who included brewers like Houlding. There was a philosophical divide on the club committee which made a great contribution to the split.

 

[Neiler]

Simply facinating and stunning - this collection is truelly uniqe and special - so happy its ours.

 

[Gwladys St. Glory]

I started a thread about this about a week ago and got FA in response.

Should've titled it 'Get Yer T*ts Out' I guess...I can't believe there's Evertonians that dont' know about this, that's criminal.

 

[davek]

What it doesn't touch upon is the political element. On one side you had the Liberal's concerned about the evil's of drink & on the other the Conservatives who included brewers like Houlding. There was a philosophical divide on the club committee which made a great contribution to the split.

Probably fundamental in understanding the whole sorry story, DENNIS. Many of Houlding's key opponents in the club would have hated him more for his politics rather than some (largely) cock and bull story over financial exploitation. It saddens me that this otherwise sterling Collection thinks it appropriate to continue to peddle the bogey-man Houlding line.

I repeat for the umpteenth time, Liverpool FC should never have been created. The 'Founding Fathers' fcuked it up.

But that's just me again...having a pop at the people in control of the club across the centuries.