The EU deal

[Jags..class]

I look at countries like Norway and Switzerland, doing very well on their own, and ask why we can't do the same.

Good point

 

[dandydan]

Remind me again why the Labour Party was created?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...ights-says-labours-alan-johnson-a6668966.html

Labour should campaign to stay in the EU even if David Cameron negotiates away British workers’ rights that come with membership of it, a senior Labour politician has said.

Former Home Secretary Alan Johnson criticised a previous suggestion by his party leader Jeremy Corbyn that Labour should wait to see whether the prime minister’s package was acceptable.

“Even if [David Cameron] did come back with a package that interferes with workers’ rights we don’t get rid of the EU, we get rid of the Tories,” he told a fringe meeting at Labour party conference.

 

[davek]

Remind me again why the Labour Party was created?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...ights-says-labours-alan-johnson-a6668966.html

Labour should campaign to stay in the EU even if David Cameron negotiates away British workers’ rights that come with membership of it, a senior Labour politician has said.

Former Home Secretary Alan Johnson criticised a previous suggestion by his party leader Jeremy Corbyn that Labour should wait to see whether the prime minister’s package was acceptable.

“Even if [David Cameron] did come back with a package that interferes with workers’ rights we don’t get rid of the EU, we get rid of the Tories,” he told a fringe meeting at Labour party conference.

Johnson is a proper Uncle Tom.

 

[Jib in lad]

I look at countries like Norway and Switzerland, doing very well on their own, and ask why we can't do the same.

It sounds lovely doesn't it, the reality might be very different though.

http://www.theguardian.com/commenti...-reality-uk-voters-seduced-by-norwegian-model

 

[dandydan]

Johnson is a proper Uncle Tom.

Labour died with John Smith.

 

[davek]

Labour died with John Smith.

Ramsey McDonald more like.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

I don't think leaving the EU will help us whatsoever

I don't think it'll be disastrous either to be honest. It would hardly be apocalyptic if we left

That being said, with the rise of China it's a good idea for us in Europe to get our eggs together in the same basket and promote a united front. For that reason, I'm voting to stay in

 

[dandydan]

I don't think leaving the EU will help us whatsoever

I don't think it'll be disastrous either to be honest. It would hardly be apocalyptic if we left

That being said, with the rise of China it's a good idea for us in Europe to get our eggs together in the same basket and promote a united front. For that reason, I'm voting to stay in

Being out would mean we could cut our own deals with China.

 

[SNova]

It sounds lovely doesn't it, the reality might be very different though.

http://www.theguardian.com/commenti...-reality-uk-voters-seduced-by-norwegian-model

We are the United Kingdom, the 5th biggest economy and the EU's biggest export market in the world. We can achieve our own deal. Plus, we can make our own global deals, we have ties throughout the world and particularly, we have connections with the Commonwealth and the English speaking parts of the world.

Let's start to think globally for a bright and prosperous future, let's get control of our country back and let us put the Great back into Great Britain.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

Being out would mean we could cut our own deals with China.

It's not so much deals I'm worried about, but more the fact that there's this ever growing international power with an undemocratically elected government and it might be a good idea to have some back up if they ever start eyeing us up

 

[dandydan]

It's not so much deals I'm worried about, but more the fact that there's this ever growing international power with an undemocratically elected government and it might be a good idea to have some back up if they ever start eyeing us up

The bit in bold also applies to the EU, nobody votes for the people making the decisions and they are committed to expansion look at their interfering in the Ukraine for example.
As for the Chinese threat that's what NATO is for. Not that it means much but the though of taking on the USA more likely to make anyone think twice than the thought of fighting any EU nation bar maybe France. And as a last resort we have nukes.

 

[Jib in lad]

We are the United Kingdom, the 5th biggest economy and the EU's biggest export market in the world. We can achieve our own deal. Plus, we can make our own global deals, we have ties throughout the world and particularly, we have connections with the Commonwealth and the English speaking parts of the world.

Let's start to think globally for a bright and prosperous future, let's get control of our country back and let us put the Great back into Great Britain.

LOL yeah ok mate.

Regarding trade we import far far more then we export check out our balance of payments below.

http://www.economicshelp.org/blog/5776/trade/uk-balance-of-payments/

 

[dandydan]

LOL yeah ok mate.

Regarding trade we import far far more then we export check out our balance of payments below.

http://www.economicshelp.org/blog/5776/trade/uk-balance-of-payments/

How much of that is from the EU?

 

[SNova]

LOL yeah ok mate.

Regarding trade we import far far more then we export check out our balance of payments below.

http://www.economicshelp.org/blog/5776/trade/uk-balance-of-payments/

We have a trade deficit with the EU. It is in both of our interests to sign a good trade agreement. The Germans are not going to stop exporting their motorcars out of spite.

 

[Jib in lad]

How much of that is from the EU?

I can only find this .

https://www.uktradeinfo.com/Statistics/OverseasTradeStatistics/Pages/EU_and_Non-EU_Data.aspx