The Eco-Friendly Thread

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GlosBlue said:
I'd like to do more to reduce my carbon footprint where possible and wondered if you lot have any recommendations?

It seems that being eco-friendly generally comes at a premium with many options being really expensive. For example, Who Gives A Crap bog roll is apparently £24 for 24 rolls.

To start things off here are a few things I've found:

Recycled loo roll in paper packaging: https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/302533443?preservedReferrer=https://www.google.com/

Reduced plastic toothbrush heads: https://humblesmile.co/products/rep...tric-toothbrushs-sonicare-electric-toothbrush

Washing products (apparently standard liquids are harmful when flushed away): https://www.ecoverdirect.com/products/washing-up-liquid-1-litre/ewash1l.aspx?productid=ewash1l

Before I get abuse I'm no eco warrior by any means and am not pushing this on any of you. I just thought I'd see if there are any other things that people may recommend?

Ta!
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As well as using a lot of sawdust, buy soapflakes and make your own washing detergent, use an essential oil to add aromatic appeal.

Find a local CSA for organic veg to cut back on a lot of packaging/footprint.
 
Daveysgingerlovechild said:
How deep do you want to get? See, a good starting point is your philosophy.

Are you:

1) Interested in eco-friendliness for self-preservation? I.e. any interventions need to have mankind and our way of life at its heart?

2) A deep green ecologist. Deeply concerned about all creatures and think mankind is only but one creature on this earth. Thus, we need to cut back so all life thrives.

3) a radical ecologist. Think that mankind is the problem and we should just die out to save the planet.

If 3 don't procreate and go live in a hutcut of from all modern trappings. If 2, go live in a hut but have the odd nice thing. If 1, just give up. Recycling is peeing in the wind.
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Wish I'd done 3 sounds awesome, too late now
 

chrismpw said:
Been an advocate of this for decades. My rules -

Don't buy tat.
Don't buy anything advertised - its tat.
Don't fly.
Buy locally, buy locally sourced if affordable.
Don't fly.
Buy seasonal stuff - don't expect fruit to be flown from the other hemisphere To satisfy a whim.
Don't fly.
Think twice before using a car - can you walk instead? Are you just going out to buy tat?
Don't fly.
Get off fridge/freezer dependency and go off-grid.
Use LED lights everywhere.
Don't fly.
Don't engage with the consumer culture, but make do and mend.
Don't fly.
Tell everyone else not to fly.*

*I'm reconsidering this after seeing what the great British holidaying public are really like during Covid. Get out of the country you litter dropping yobs ffs!
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Not sure you are joking or not but if not...

Ships are worse than Planes. Are you suggesting people don't travel internationally at all.

Are we also to walk to work or long distances to see family. Alternative methods may not be available.

I mean I wouldn't mind not having to drive or fly again but in all reality it's not feasible. I would say that for most. Not everyone lives near where they can shop, work etc... not everyone has the ability to pickup and move. Companies are further away from populations nowadays and those in populated areas are surrounded by expensive homes.

With cars going electric and energy companies switching to wind and solar at least there is a fix for that angle. But again it's cost and being able to switch.

The onus should be on those in science and engineering to come up with viable alternatives to the current.

There are many other ways to have a positive impact without resorting to abandoning the necessary evil that is the car, bus or plane
 
Chewbacca said:
When I worked in the packaging industry more and more companies were moving to the 5R’s principle of waste generation and management


  • Refuse: Say no to what you don’t need.
  • Reduce: Letting go of things that are no longer of use and donating or selling. It also means only focusing on necessary purchases.
  • Reuse: Switching disposable items for reusable and permanent alternatives.
  • Recycle: We’ve been made to believe that recycling is the go-to solution for waste reduction. In fact, it’s number four in the list behind refuse, reduce, and reuse.
  • Rot: Compost your own household waste or take part in a composting program for organic waste.
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This is the simplest good advice you may get. If you want to waste less, you must consume less. (That's particularly hard for me to comprehend, but I know it's a thing.)
 

Tipp blue said:
Turn off all your appliances at the wall, when that little red light is on your TV is still using 70% of the power it uses when its turned on.
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SteveSC said:
Not sure you are joking or not but if not...

Ships are worse than Planes. Are you suggesting people don't travel internationally at all.

Are we also to walk to work or long distances to see family. Alternative methods may not be available.

I mean I wouldn't mind not having to drive or fly again but in all reality it's not feasible. I would say that for most. Not everyone lives near where they can shop, work etc... not everyone has the ability to pickup and move. Companies are further away from populations nowadays and those in populated areas are surrounded by expensive homes.

With cars going electric and energy companies switching to wind and solar at least there is a fix for that angle. But again it's cost and being able to switch.

The onus should be on those in science and engineering to come up with viable alternatives to the current.

There are many other ways to have a positive impact without resorting to abandoning the necessary evil that is the car, bus or plane
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I did say where possible. Obviously if people have good reason to travel, then fine. To illustrate - I dont consider crossing the Atlantic to do a weekend shopping the same global brands you find everywhere else, just so you can boost to tour mates, a valid reason. I've worked with people like this. To my mind, 7f you're crossing the Atlantic it should be for a once in a lifetime holiday, or a long stay.

People should work locally and not commute. I moved house so that I could avoid a 2.5 mile 30 minute commute every day and walk instead, so I practice what I preach but am not hair shirt about it.

Shipping is worse than air travel per mile, true. But the sheer mass of goods carried by ships make it worthwhile over aircraft by a long way. Also shipping is cleaning up its act.

So long as people put the onus on science rather than their own self discipline the problems will persist. I think greed, laziness and the pursuit of the latest tat move far faster than science.
 
SteveSC said:
Not sure you are joking or not but if not...

Ships are worse than Planes. Are you suggesting people don't travel internationally at all.

Are we also to walk to work or long distances to see family. Alternative methods may not be available.

I mean I wouldn't mind not having to drive or fly again but in all reality it's not feasible. I would say that for most. Not everyone lives near where they can shop, work etc... not everyone has the ability to pickup and move. Companies are further away from populations nowadays and those in populated areas are surrounded by expensive homes.

With cars going electric and energy companies switching to wind and solar at least there is a fix for that angle. But again it's cost and being able to switch.

The onus should be on those in science and engineering to come up with viable alternatives to the current.

There are many other ways to have a positive impact without resorting to abandoning the necessary evil that is the car, bus or plane
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They are. Where I once worked, a client had developed a source of energy from tidal lagoons. They were making losses in the development phase but were doing so on the assumption that the government were going to give them a grant to take it further.

Guess what the government decided?...
 

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