The Beatles vs Monty Python. Greater act?

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Was just reading the Wikipedia article on Monty Python. Their influence on comedy is pretty incredible.

John Oliver said this, “I first discovered Monty Python when I was probably 10 years old, and back then it felt like something I shouldn’t be watching. That was already a pretty big appeal. Then I saw Life of Brian in middle school, when a substitute teacher put it on to keep us quiet on a rainy day. I’m not sure he knew exactly what he was showing us, but I’ve always been hugely grateful for the reckless professional mistake he made that day, because I’ve never forgotten how it made me feel.

Writing about the importance of Monty Python is basically pointless. Citing them as an influence is almost redundant. It’s assumed. In fact, from now on it’s probably more efficient to say that comedy writers should have to explicitly state that they don’t owe a significant debt to Monty Python. And if someone does that, they’ll be emphatically wrong. This strange group of wildly talented, appropriately disrespectful, hugely imaginative and massively inspirational idiots changed what comedy could be for their generation and for those that followed.”



On the Beatles, Tom petty said this, “The minute I saw the Beatles on the Ed Sullivan Show—and it's true of thousands of guys—there was the way out. There was the way to do it. You get your friends and you're a self-contained unit. And you make the music. And it looked like so much fun. It was something I identified with. I really saw in the Beatles that here's something I could do. I knew I could do it. It wasn't long before there were groups springing up in garages all over the place."



Which is the greater act?

I’m giving it to Python. Life of Brian edges it for me. That they were ahead of their time is an understatement. From 40 years ago..

 

Monty Python for me, whilst I accept the influence that others say The Beatles had on music they have never really done it for me (and the fact that so many people essentially worship them winds me up as well)
 


Not a believer in “the 1st is the best” philosophy. Monty Python had some funny skits and The Beatles were a big influence on the music industry, but neither are worthy of the pedestals they are put on. Release all of their material today and we’d be talking about how mediocre they both are.
I think that's part of the point. They changed the game. Richard Fosbury revolutionised his branch of athletics, but there are about a million who came after him, did it better thanks to him, and will never be remembered. He probably wouldn't even qualify these days. Would Dixie Dean get 60 goals in today's game? Does a 'no' mean his statue should come down?
 
The question is not were they ahead of their time , or fantastic at what they did, as both obviously were. Have they stood the test of time? Some Beatles songs would excel in any generation, I'm not sure if Monty Python would impress a 14-year old in the way it did in the 70's. I watched a recording of the O2 show a couple of years ago, and was disappointed, but still like Holy Grail and Life of Brian. One doesn't have to be better than the other, they have both played a significant role in my life
 
Not a believer in “the 1st is the best” philosophy. Monty Python had some funny skits and The Beatles were a big influence on the music industry, but neither are worthy of the pedestals they are put on. Release all of their material today and we’d be talking about how mediocre they both are.

I do not think this is true at all.

Python would probably fare better as some of their stuff is so singular.

You could argue that stuff like Sgt. Peppers would seem dated today, but that's because there's been so many imitators since then. If it was coming out now for the first time then it would still stand out as those imitators would never have existed.
 

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