Stone Roses > oasis

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BlueToff said:
I love Oasis. First really got into them when I was about 15 - a year after they'd broke up. But growing up in England in the early 2000s it's not like you couldn't know who Oasis were.

That's the thing about them. Whatever people think of it - and most of those opinions that they're 'pub rock' or derivative are actually just stereotypical, derivative opinions from people who have never really scratched the surface - they transcended music and became part of the culture. Not many bands or artists achieve that, certainly none from the last 15/20 years.

Not sure how anybody can listen to The Masterplan and suggest it's 'derivative', or Let's All Make Believe, or not be absolutely buzzing when they listen to Round Are Way. Those are three B-Sides (remember them)?

Oasis wore their influences on their sleeve and pulled it off. They had the quality to back up their arrogance. And whatever you think of their music, people got up (and still probably do) in the morning and lived for that band. That's mental. They're still the biggest guitar band in Britain, and they split up 12 years ago.

With the Roses, I love them too. Love what they did and the music they made. Don't have to categorise them as better or worse really. One couldn't have happened without the other but the Roses couldn't have happened without the Mondays and then that goes back to Chicago and the birth of acid house, and the birth of acid house goes back to the 60s etc etc

So it does kind of grate when I see someone say 'derivative' or 'pub rock'. Not sure Talk Tonight is a pub rock song, or Waterfall is derivative. Everyone likes what they like and that's fine.

Edit: Also, getting into Oasis and then the music that that subsequently got me into, led to me picking up a guitar and teaching myself how to play it. I never had the confidence to have lessons when I was younger and it's taken 3-4 years to even get remotely half-decent, but it's got me through some tough times (and got me a few shags, so, cheers lads)
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Speaking of B-sides I thought acquiesce was a corker, better than most singles.
 

They both are lauded for stunning debut albums.

Oasis wrote up in the sky and little James and some other absolutely terrible music

Stone Roses didn’t write any terrible music, But then they didn’t stick around long enough to get crap

I don’t love either, but could listen to all of the Stone Roses debut and lots of Oasis songs with the B Sides album having the best stuff for me. I’d say Stone Roses were better by virtue of being more original and not writing Little James
 
PaddyJames said:
Did any of you lot go to the Spike island gig?
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Nope. Kinda regret not going. Don't understand why I didn't even think about it. Guess I didn't realise at the time how long it would be before they did anything else.

I can remember around 90/91 me and all my mates were clucking for a second album. Thought One Love coming out meant that it was nearly ready.

You go?
 
Listened to both bands’ first albums recently, and IMO, both still stand up. Second albums were both equally solid, but not a patch on their first. After that, the Roses folded and Oasis went downhill, but if you were to playlist both bands, as I have, you’d be left with a load of songs by both that leave their mark.
 

JordanianEmbassy said:
Nope. Kinda regret not going. Don't understand why I didn't even think about it. Guess I didn't realise at the time how long it would be before they did anything else.

I can remember around 90/91 me and all my mates were clucking for a second album. Thought One Love coming out meant that it was nearly ready.

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Nah mate I was only a kid, went to Heaton Park though that was superb.
 
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