starting eleven after deadline day?

[marty mcfly]

This.

Who is the player that dictates the tempo of the game? Cleverly?

Let's face it we have too many crab footballers. The only player I have seen potential apart from Barkley and Gibson to play that Barry role is Besic.

 

[Raino85]

wishful thinking (and what i want to see generally)

Howard
Coleman Jags Stones Oviedo (obviously baines when fit)

McCarthy Besic

Barkely


Mirallas Delofeu

Lukaku


Subs - Lennon/barry/robles/mori/kone/rodriguez/McGeady

???????

 

[Fletch]

433 for me

Howard
Coleman Stones Jags Baines

Barkley McCarthy Mirallas

Lennon Lukaku Delofoeu

 

[mkrudden]

I think you are being very harsh on Besic.

Genuine questions:

You think he's creative?

Do you think he's similar if not identical in his function within the team as McCarthy?

 

[Greek Fisherman]

If you look at our first 15/16 players fully fit then we aren't looking all doom and gloom as people think

Howard
Joel

Coleman
Jags
Stones
Baines
Galloway
Mori
Browning
Oviedo

Cleverley
Barry
Besic
McCarthy
Osman

Lennon
Mirralas
Kone
Naismith
Deulofeu

Lukaku

That's 21 players,haven't included McGeady-Garbage, Hibbert- Injured, Pienaar- Injured, Gibson- Injured & Drunk as they are unreliable.

Defensively on paper we look strong, as long as Howard has picked his form up and not replicating last season which I think was a one off. Although we are prone to not getting protected by the midfield sometimes and the full backs can get caught forward abit to much (I think one of the reasons we did well v Southampton was because we had Galloway at left back and his main duty was defending so there was always two cb's and a full back back).

People are kidding themselves if they think Barry wont play every game. Sometimes he struggles to protect the back four but im happy with the rest of the centre mids although I think Besic is going to struggle to get a game this season as I think Martinez is more likely to put Cleverley or Barkley in if McCarthy or Barry get injured suspended.

Its the next part we struggle, wingers we are fine with a good blend of goals (mirralas), skill (Deulofeu) and work rate (Lennon) also Kone has done ok on the right if we get a couple of injury's (anything but Barkley or Naismith their). Naismith seems to be the guy who will fill in as no.10 if Ross gets injured and also upfront if Rom gets injured.

Im not going to go on about the two additions that will turn that squad into a very very good squad as we all have spoke about it till we are blue in the face.

All in all its a lot of players to keep happy and a couple in there that should of got moved on. Keep our main players fit and play a suitable system that doesn't show us up as missing a creative outlet then we should be in for a good seaason

What about the fact you left out our best player - Barkley. You're awesome!

 

[marty mcfly]

Genuine questions:

You think he's creative?

Do you think he's similar if not identical in his function within the team as McCarthy?

It depends what you mean by creative. Does he create a lot of chances - No but that's not what I mean. Does he move the ball intelligently into positions where others can take advantage? Does he know when to keep it short? Does he have good long passing?

The thing at the moment for all those that say Barkley has no football brain Barkley is our best player at doing this but Besic has a decent range of passing too and at the world cup played that role.

Barkley pinging the ball around against Barnsley was a big reason why we won that game. Obviously it helps if you have his ability.

 

[Greek Fisherman]

Not as desparate as me when I suggested Quintero at the end of the window

It's a shame Quintero hasn't been given a sustained run. One minute he is the next James, the next he is bound for Div 2. I don't get it. He looks like a player who would have brought something different to our squad and worth the gamble on loan. Martinez obviously knows something we don't.

If the numbers being thrown around are real, we could have sold Naismith and bought Pato for a net difference of zero. What!!???
Again, only RM knows.

 

[Ashtonian]

???????

he is a winger who isnt perminanlty injured so options st least