Stadium Thread - ALL Kirkby/Stadium Discussion Here

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leonbil said:
its obvious to me that the council are doing everything in their power to hinder everton football club - whilst seemingly doing everything in their power to facilitate liverpool fc.

That some evertonians would sooner (and let me stress this utterly pointlessly) attack the everton board and chairman rather than the villains of the piece amazes me. Whatever you feel about Kirby, if we are to buy players, redevelop goodison or move to a stadium within the city we will need every spare penny we can get our hands on.

Laughing at a potential 10 million loss to the club because it proves some petty little point about the way the club is being run (or at least that is how some of you interpret this data) and makes you think you are intellectually superior is hardly going to help proceedings.

At the time we invested in Finch Farm, the proposal to develop Bellefield and build homes on it was a financially sound one. We were in the middle of a housing boom. Initial consultations would have told us that planning permission was highly likely. That the club didn't predict the sub-prime mortgage crisis and the collapse of housing prices is hardly a fair accusation against it- most governments round the world didn't. That the club didn't predict the souring of the relationship with the mendacious LCC, and it's consequences can hardly go against them either.

THESE BASTARDS ARE HINDERING OUR CLUB AND HELPING OUR RIVALS FFS.

So what do we get?

I expected to see on this forum, a call to arms.
Evertonians mobilising, in reflection of the team spirit that Moyes has built in his squad - to fight the great goliath that is Liverpool, so too, we as fans, rise to fight the LCC's blatant political decision making with letter campaigns, writing to our local MP's, demanding all the details of the planning board to be released and compared to other proposals AND IF ALL ELSE FAILS - every Evertonian in Liverpool signing a statement that we will vote out the local authority at the next opportunity for the treatment OUR BELOVED club has received.

still, its probably easier to just **** kenwright off isn't it.

I wish some of you weren't our fans because you are an embarrassment to the club.

(and its not just this issue that LCC has [Poor language removed] our club over with)
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But that wont happen. The club losing out on £8-10million is something fans wont kick up a fuss about if it relates to Kirkby.

Even if DK fell through....wouldnt we have been still be able to sell it off and make that £8-10million?

As for Elstone's comments. They were blunt, yes, but the relationship between EFC and LCC hasnt been rosey for years and have both had a go at each other. Maybe Elstone and EFC know more behind the scenes that we do, maybe someone from LCC let something slip it might get accepted and then it didnt, maybe we hinged a lot on Bellevue towards DK (as part of the plan that makes the EFC estimates viable to them) - now that's gone its either going to be more expensive or its been a waste of time and millions - who knows?

LCC havent brought out a statement in relation to Elstone's comments have they? I mean, he's basically said they're courrupt and they havent rebuffed the comments - or do they need to because they've got their own way?
 
kenada_blue said:
But that wont happen. The club losing out on £8-10million is something fans wont kick up a fuss about if it relates to Kirkby.

Even if DK fell through....wouldnt we have been still be able to sell it off and make that £8-10million?

As for Elstone's comments. They were blunt, yes, but the relationship between EFC and LCC hasnt been rosey for years and have both had a go at each other. Maybe Elstone and EFC know more behind the scenes that we do, maybe someone from LCC let something slip it might get accepted and then it didnt, maybe we hinged a lot on Bellevue towards DK (as part of the plan that makes the EFC estimates viable to them) - now that's gone its either going to be more expensive or its been a waste of time and millions - who knows?

LCC havent brought out a statement in relation to Elstone's comments have they? I mean, he's basically said they're courrupt and they havent rebuffed the comments - or do they need to because they've got their own way?
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\its not related to Kirby, its related to everton. People see this planning permission thing as part of kirby are wrong - its part of the deal that included developing finch farm and improving our training facilities. Any surplus money goes to Kirby, redeveloping goodison or anything else - but right now, that money being denied us, only hurts one thing and one thing alone - and that is everton.

If people can't see that, then shame on them.

Perhaps they should go and support Liverpool local council, who they seem far more willing to give the benefit of the doubt to, than everton football club.
 
I don't want the move to Kirkby for personal reasons . . . It's too far to walk to f***** Kirkby.
I'm still gonna get to every home game whatever happens, but it's a struggle even now, and there is bound to be a price hike on tickets + the travelling expenses.
I think I'm gonna have to start sellin me arse, or me bird - whichever brings in the most cash !!!
 

leonbil said:
I hope you and Clarky are planning this tender act of homo-eroticism in Kirby or the new stadium.

Otherwise (shock horror) you're off topic.
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It was on topic, he said he would sell his prize assetts just to watch Everton, hes a true Everton fan, he doesnt support Goodison Park, he supports Everton Football Club.
 
I don't agree with alot of what the club has done over the years, like the move to Kirkby and building houses on Bellefield etc, but let's face it - people like me can't make a difference and stop these things happening, apart from saying to the club ....
"I don't agree, I'm not going the game anymore" - but that just means I'm going to suffer, they don't care.
If the executives and the money men want us at Kirkby and they get the go ahead to build, you can bet your shirt that's where we're going, regardless of what the fans think.
Sad, but true.
 

Clarky66 said:
I don't agree with alot of what the club has done over the years, like the move to Kirkby and building houses on Bellefield etc, but let's face it - people like me can't make a difference and stop these things happening, apart from saying to the club ....
"I don't agree, I'm not going the game anymore" - but that just means I'm going to suffer, they don't care.
If the executives and the money men want us at Kirkby and they get the go ahead to build, you can bet your shirt that's where we're going, regardless of what the fans think.
Sad, but true.
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Thing is though Clarky, the fans voted for the move. (y)
 
kenada_blue said:
But that wont happen. The club losing out on £8-10million is something fans wont kick up a fuss about if it relates to Kirkby.

Even if DK fell through....wouldnt we have been still be able to sell it off and make that £8-10million?

As for Elstone's comments. They were blunt, yes, but the relationship between EFC and LCC hasnt been rosey for years and have both had a go at each other. Maybe Elstone and EFC know more behind the scenes that we do, maybe someone from LCC let something slip it might get accepted and then it didnt, maybe we hinged a lot on Bellevue towards DK (as part of the plan that makes the EFC estimates viable to them) - now that's gone its either going to be more expensive or its been a waste of time and millions - who knows?

LCC havent brought out a statement in relation to Elstone's comments have they? I mean, he's basically said they're courrupt and they havent rebuffed the comments - or do they need to because they've got their own way?
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LCC have respnded mate. They replied to the out of control and juvenile language of our CEO with a dignified call for Everton to get together with the city council to forge new plans in keeping with the Government Inspector's decision for that site to have a more affordable and diverse housing market for the area and also to retain some green and open space.
 
leonbil said:
\its not related to Kirby, its related to everton. People see this planning permission thing as part of kirby are wrong - its part of the deal that included developing finch farm and improving our training facilities. Any surplus money goes to Kirby, redeveloping goodison or anything else - but right now, that money being denied us, only hurts one thing and one thing alone - and that is everton.

If people can't see that, then shame on them.

Perhaps they should go and support Liverpool local council, who they seem far more willing to give the benefit of the doubt to, than everton football club.
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It's Kirkby mate. No need for you to know that like being from London.
 

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