Spurs

[PhilM]

If you actually believe Spurs are a big club compared to the likes of Arsenal and Man Utd then you’re as deluded as many already think.

Genuine question: what do you believe constitutes Arsenal being a big club? I'm not claiming they aren't, rather I am wondering what your reason is.

 

[Alan Whittle]

Sky has poisoned and distorted people's minds, as regards notions of 'big' clubs.

Everton and Tottenham, are big clubs in terms of history, fanbase, and current ambitions.

This x1000

 

[sdk]

By my own nonsystematic estimation, I'd say Spurs are probably pretty close to Man Utd in terms of public recognition in the USA (where English footy's only been televised regularly over the past decade). Sad to say, Everton is comparatively obscure hereabouts.

 

[Ballly]

By my own nonsystematic estimation, I'd say Spurs are probably pretty close to Man Utd in terms of public recognition in the USA (where English footy's only been televised regularly over the past decade). Sad to say, Everton is comparatively obscure hereabouts.

Really? That's interesting and I'd be interested on where you live in the US for you to have that estimation. Or is it just from watching Champions League on TNT that give Spurs a little more coverage than usual because of their analyst Steve Nash being a fan?

 

[Yid4life]

All i can say is thank god i gave my ticket to a mate for yesterday.

I have apoligised to him profusely & promised to never do it again.

If we keep the RS goals down to 5 at the weekend i will be amazed. Reckon i will be on my way home by half time.

 

[Walham Green Blue]

All i can say is thank god i gave my ticket to a mate for yesterday.

I have apoligised to him profusely & promised to never do it again.

If we keep the RS goals down to 5 at the weekend i will be amazed. Reckon i will be on my way home by half time.

I have this weird feeling, based upon absolutely sod all, that you’ll turn them over. Despite a win for them being better for us I’d actually prefer you to do them.

 

[Yid4life]

I have this weird feeling, based upon absolutely sod all, that you’ll turn them over. Despite a win for them being better for us I’d actually prefer you to do them.

I really hope that your premonition is correct. Cannot stand the club or their fans. Hideous.

 

[sdk]

Really? That's interesting and I'd be interested on where you live in the US for you to have that estimation. Or is it just from watching Champions League on TNT that give Spurs a little more coverage than usual because of their analyst Steve Nash being a fan?

I'm in Massachusetts. My sense of Spurs' comparative prominence is based less on the frequency of their appearances on footy-friendly channels than on how many people I meet that profess to like or follow them, which number seems comparable to those I meet who prefer Man Utd (or Chelsea, or City, or the RS). For their part, Arsenal fans seem somewhat fewer in number and Everton supporters are pretty rare (like the treasures we are). An unsystematic view on my part indeed.

 

[Ring master]

 

[LEONARD]

All i can say is thank god i gave my ticket to a mate for yesterday.

I have apoligised to him profusely & promised to never do it again.

If we keep the RS goals down to 5 at the weekend i will be amazed. Reckon i will be on my way home by half time.

Have some faith brother, and please hammer these horrible rats at the weekend.

 

[Ballly]

I'm in Massachusetts. My sense of Spurs' comparative prominence is based less on the frequency of their appearances on footy-friendly channels than on how many people I meet that profess to like or follow them, which number seems comparable to those I meet who prefer Man Utd (or Chelsea, or City, or the RS). For their part, Arsenal fans seem somewhat fewer in number and Everton supporters are pretty rare (like the treasures we are). An unsystematic view on my part indeed.

That’s interesting for sure and refreshing to hear as usually if anyone gets as popular as Utd/Pool its those winning the silverware as Chelsea and MCity have done recently. Obviously reaching Champs Lge final must’ve helped Spurs plus their recent run at the title when they ran Leicester close.

 

[CWB304]

That’s interesting for sure and refreshing to hear as usually if anyone gets as popular as Utd/Pool its those winning the silverware as Chelsea and MCity have done recently. Obviously reaching Champs Lge final must’ve helped Spurs plus their recent run at the title when they ran Leicester close.

Is that the one where Spurs ‘put the pressure on’ Leicester for much of the way, before collapsing and allowing Arsenal to overtake them in the final stretch?

Seriously though, Spurs is of course a big club, but one which historically hasn’t collected the weight of silverware it needs to establish a place at the top table. As regards the delta between big club aspiration and reality, Tottenham is not quite Newcastle or Wolves, but as things stand Spurs has to be considered a tier below the top dozen genuinely big clubs across the continent (with respect to both perceived size and on-field success).

The strange thing I’ve found about Spurs fans, having spent a number of years living within a short walk of White Hart Lane, is that they don’t really mind the whole ‘Spursy’ thing. In fact they seem on the whole to find it quite funny and to be almost proud of the fact that losing seems to be hardwired into the club’s DNA.

I’d imagine that fans of most other clubs would bristle at being perennially on the receiving end of banter mocking their clubs’ propensity to choking within sight of silverware; Spurs fans seem to get a kick out of being known for playing well and losing.

And it’s this pervasive tolerance of failure that would lead me to forecast that Everton under Ancelotti (or his successor) will be winning things consistently before the Spursy-men. Having said all that, their new stadium does boast a cheese room and a microbrewery.

 

[Yid4life]

Is that the one where Spurs ‘put the pressure on’ Leicester for much of the way, before collapsing and allowing Arsenal to overtake them in the final stretch?

Seriously though, Spurs is of course a big club, but one which historically hasn’t collected the weight of silverware it needs to establish a place at the top table. As regards the delta between big club aspiration and reality, Tottenham is not quite Newcastle or Wolves, but as things stand Spurs has to be considered a tier below the top dozen genuinely big clubs across the continent (with respect to both perceived size and on-field success).

The strange thing I’ve found about Spurs fans, having spent a number of years living within a short walk of White Hart Lane, is that they don’t really mind the whole ‘Spursy’ thing. In fact they seem on the whole to find it quite funny and to be almost proud of the fact that losing seems to be hardwired into the club’s DNA.

I’d imagine that fans of most other clubs would bristle at being perennially on the receiving end of banter mocking their clubs’ propensity to choking within sight of silverware; Spurs fans seem to get a kick out of being known for playing well and losing.

And it’s this pervasive tolerance of failure that would lead me to forecast that Everton under Ancelotti (or his successor) will be winning things consistently before the Spursy-men. Having said all that, their new stadium does boast a cheese room and a microbrewery.

What you are saying in a nutshell is that Spurs fans are not glory hunters because we still set attendance records due to our love of the club and despite not winning anything.

When I was a youngster not being a glory hunter was regarded as a positive attribute whereas in modern football, clubs might as well not exist if they don't win silverware.

Apparently.

(Sorry that was a bigger nutshell than anticipated).

 

[alvinh]

Spurs were one of the so called 'Big 5' that were consulted at the formation of the Premier League. They have a good away following, a fantastic stadium, a tradition of innovative and exciting football and the status of being the first team to do the 'double'. Of course they're a big side.

 

[N.S.N.O.]

I have this weird feeling, based upon absolutely sod all, that you’ll turn them over. Despite a win for them being better for us I’d actually prefer you to do them.

Can only see City beating Liverpool this season the way things are going... Kane is a big loss for Spurs, although correct me if I'm wrong Yid4life, but spurs got alot of good results the past 2 seasons when Kane was injured.... Kinda like every other player raised their game...still feel like if Poch had left Kane on the bench for the Champions league final and played Moura, things would have been alot different