SportPesa - possible new shirt sponsor

[bluestevon]

Im sorry mate but your treating 21m as if its not something we can use.

Charity begins at home.

Oh God mate, i know it won't happen, it's just one of my wierd musings i get from time to time.

But did get me start thinking out the box about the actual worth of having a Charity on the shirt compared to a 'middling' sponsorship deal, Barca for example eventually ditched UNICEF (paying them 1.5m a year from the club as a donation after doing so) but only when a stupendously high sponsorship deal was on the table for them, which the gut says that the put a commercial value quite highly on the UNICEF deal - otherwise they would have taken another sponsor way before they did.

It's for me anyway an interesting idea, just how much in abstract terms would the club benefit ultimately from a similar deal, and would it outweigh a straight money in the hand deal of the amount we can realistically attract.

In terms of 'what is 21m worth to us' though, using the most wasteful example it is worth roughly one Niasse and his wages we will have paid by this seasons end.

Will be honest here though, I'd love to see such a thing happen, we supposedly have money we can't actually bloody spend in buying players atm, we have money for wages we can't equally utilise so it will go to waste effectively, yet we would rather stick some dogshit company potentially on the shirt for the world to see (and i include any payday loan company, betting firm or anything to do with the saudi's, arab emirates, Qatar government owned crap that way) just for a few extra quid which ultimately will just benefit the owners/


P.S. Matchday gate reciepts are such a drop in the ocean as well that we should be capping those massively lower than they are, want our club to become seriously relevant again then we should not be looking at trying to emulate clubs whose gap over us is so huge that we never can match them on the same playing field. But rather try to be innovative in the way we go forward.

Cos right now I'm fully prepared for a low spend in january, STCC excuses to be rolled out once again next summer in order to explain the benefit of us selling Lukaku and the happy clapping circle continues.

Would also wipe any doubt there is about Moshiri being a carpet bagger in one swoop as well wouldn't it? And give us a currently unique selling point to all other commercial partners, truly 'the peoples club' we'd be then

 

[matty1878]

If we get this and it's only a few mill diff I'm guna fume and make a moshri voodoo doll. Don't make me do it!

 

[Goat]

Oh God mate, i know it won't happen, it's just one of my wierd musings i get from time to time.

But did get me start thinking out the box about the actual worth of having a Charity on the shirt compared to a 'middling' sponsorship deal, Barca for example eventually ditched UNICEF (paying them 1.5m a year from the club as a donation after doing so) but only when a stupendously high sponsorship deal was on the table for them, which the gut says that the put a commercial value quite highly on the UNICEF deal - otherwise they would have taken another sponsor way before they did.

It's for me anyway an interesting idea, just how much in abstract terms would the club benefit ultimately from a similar deal, and would it outweigh a straight money in the hand deal of the amount we can realistically attract.

In terms of 'what is 21m worth to us' though, using the most wasteful example it is worth roughly one Niasse and his wages we will have paid by this seasons end.

Will be honest here though, I'd love to see such a thing happen, we supposedly have money we can't actually bloody spend in buying players atm, we have money for wages we can't equally utilise so it will go to waste effectively, yet we would rather stick some dogshit company potentially on the shirt for the world to see (and i include any payday loan company, betting firm or anything to do with the saudi's, arab emirates, Qatar government owned crap that way) just for a few extra quid which ultimately will just benefit the owners/


P.S. Matchday gate reciepts are such a drop in the ocean as well that we should be capping those massively lower than they are, want our club to become seriously relevant again then we should not be looking at trying to emulate clubs whose gap over us is so huge that we never can match them on the same playing field. But rather try to be innovative in the way we go forward.

Cos right now I'm fully prepared for a low spend in january, STCC excuses to be rolled out once again next summer in order to explain the benefit of us selling Lukaku and the happy clapping circle continues.

Would also wipe any doubt there is about Moshiri being a carpet bagger in one swoop as well wouldn't it? And give us a currently unique selling point to all other commercial partners, truly 'the peoples club' we'd be then

21m would buy us almost 6 Mo Besics.

 

[bluestevon]

21m would buy us almost 6 Mo Besics.

be happy to just see the one of them as long as he was bloody well fit and able to play mate

 

[toffeemax]

You can bet that when Bill recieved an email from a 'Mr Nairobey,' from Kenya, offering to share his 30 billion pounds of wealth if he can just provide evertons bank account details. In exchange he only asks for a small sponsorship on the club shirt.

 

[Frank Gallagher]

You missed the entire point mate, i was suggesting a deal like Barca had before they sold out to Qatari airlines, they gave UNICEF the kit sponsorship deal for nothing. Thats why i am saying rather than chasing a minor increase in our deal, we should think about the long game, something like that could be worth far more in terms of the clubs profile, image etc than 5-6m a year.

Not saying give them a 20 year deal of free sponsoring of the club, but rather a short term 1-3 year deal allowing them what they once had with Barca. After they cancelled the deal with them Barca actually pay them 1.5m a year as a compensating factor for their loss of the free advertising for the charity btw, so in no way shape or form did the charity pay a thing if you misunderstood.

In a day when nearly every major club is seemingly sponsored by a betting firm, an airline from a corrupt country - Emirates, Qatar or equally dubious sponsors etc and chasing every last dollar they can get, then something like this would make a huge impression and would make IMO anyway far more of a difference in our profile and image than getting a few million more on what the chang deal is.

In terms of pure financial terms the publicity would offset the lost revenue combined witht he fact i am almost certain any new kit deal (addidas, nike etc) would be higher with a sponsor like that over some jarg betting firm, companies would want to be identified with UNICEF say by proxy of sponsoring us. companies are aware of how important PR and image is, losing out short term would benefit us in so many ways long term.

villa did this with the acorns sponsorship

 

[BiggyRat]

You missed the entire point mate, i was suggesting a deal like Barca had before they sold out to Qatari airlines, they gave UNICEF the kit sponsorship deal for nothing. Thats why i am saying rather than chasing a minor increase in our deal, we should think about the long game, something like that could be worth far more in terms of the clubs profile, image etc than 5-6m a year.

Not saying give them a 20 year deal of free sponsoring of the club, but rather a short term 1-3 year deal allowing them what they once had with Barca. After they cancelled the deal with them Barca actually pay them 1.5m a year as a compensating factor for their loss of the free advertising for the charity btw, so in no way shape or form did the charity pay a thing if you misunderstood.

In a day when nearly every major club is seemingly sponsored by a betting firm, an airline from a corrupt country - Emirates, Qatar or equally dubious sponsors etc and chasing every last dollar they can get, then something like this would make a huge impression and would make IMO anyway far more of a difference in our profile and image than getting a few million more on what the chang deal is.

In terms of pure financial terms the publicity would offset the lost revenue combined witht he fact i am almost certain any new kit deal (addidas, nike etc) would be higher with a sponsor like that over some jarg betting firm, companies would want to be identified with UNICEF say by proxy of sponsoring us. companies are aware of how important PR and image is, losing out short term would benefit us in so many ways long term.

Should've gone with that in the other post. Makes more sense now.

 

[bluestevon]

villa did this with the acorns sponsorship

aye think they did it for one season didn't they about ten years ago?

 

[Khalekan]

It would be good if a groundswell of supporter opinion stopped this potential deal right dead on the drawing board.

If fan's groups threatened to organise a protest urging Evertonians to boycott any shirt or other merchandise bearing this bookie's name or logo it would force the club to listen and at the very least would distance us as fans from what I consider to be a very unsavoury venture.

I like a bet as much as the next bloke but I know the perils of gambling and have seen it destroy lives and families.

It is not something I want to see my beloved football club endorse on the front of our shirts.

 

[D410]

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha.

This club, you couldn't make stuff like this up. It's just hilarious.

Top table we'll be dining at...so I heard.

Moving to the next level, yada yada yada...

If this is true then it shows we are entering another decade of Everton football club being used like a passed around stolen credit card.

 

[davek]

It would be good if a groundswell of supporter opinion stopped this potential deal right dead on the drawing board.

If fan's groups threatened to organise a protest urging Evertonians to boycott any shirt or other merchandise bearing this bookie's name or logo it would force the club to listen and at the very least would distance us as fans from what I consider to be a very unsavoury venture.

I like a bet as much as the next bloke but I know the perils of gambling and have seen it destroy lives and families.

It is not something I want to see my beloved football club endorse on the front of our shirts.

I'd be delighted if Everton took a lead on shirt sponsorship and just said "Nah, you know what, we're not going to have any. These shirts are our flags. We're not going to vandalise them with corporate rubbish anymore".

It'd be a relatively easy decision for Everton to make because we don't generate game changing figures from these deals and the cash from elsewhere dwarfs it.

I watched the Rome Derby the other day and there was Roma without sponsorship scrawls on their shirts and they looked like a proper football team. I'd love if Everton had the guts to turn their backs on that cash...which, even under any new deal, is going to be like giving up on 2/3rds of a Niasse each season.

 

[Deleted member 24970]

Somebody get in touch with Wang Jialin, some sort of business man taking over the world

If he wants a proper challenge were money is not object, then try bankrolling Everton to a trophy plaster your name all over our shirts and new stadium Friend

 

[JonS]

Neil Young said it all about sponsorship in his song "This notes for you":

Don't want no cash
Don't need no money
Ain't got no stash
This note's for you.
Ain't singin' for Pepsi
Ain't singin' for Coke
I don't sing for nobody
Makes me look like a joke
This note's for you.
Ain't singin' for Miller
Don't sing for Bud
I won't sing for politicians
Ain't singin' for Spuds
This note's for you.
Don't need no cash
Don't want no money
Ain't got no stash
This note's for you.
I've got the real thing
I got the real thing, baby
I got the real thing