Sky & erm BT

[andym78]

18 of BT's games will be 'first pick' matches too, like top of the table clashes and derbies and that

 

[Neiler]

Of course it's wrong: how does increases from tv revenue involve Kenwright generating anything?

The revenue of the club increases mate, im not saying its a strategic decsion made by our board, clearly they backed a winner though, debt to turnover is important and has improved drasticly over their tenure - the biggest contribution of course is TV revenue, but as Bruce said and you agree - this is relevent for every club in the PL. Yet over the course of the period almost all turnover to debt of every other PL club has worsened and ours has improved, you would have to assume on that basis the decisions made in investing that money may have been more canny then other PL clubs. Under Johnson our debt to turnover was ridiculous, so after inheriting that - you would have to say fair play for what it is today.

 

[davek]

The revenue of the club increases mate, im not saying its a strategic decsion made by our board, clearly they backed a winner though, debt to turnover is important and has improved drasticly over their tenure - the biggest contribution of course is TV revenue, but as Bruce said and you agree - this is relevent for every club in the PL. Yet over the course of the period almost all turnover to debt of every other PL club has worsened and ours has improved, you would have to assume on that basis the decisions made in investing that money may have been more canny then other PL clubs. Under Johnson our debt to turnover was ridiculous, so after inheriting that - you would have to say fair play for what it is today.

That's almost entirely down to the manager not making too many poor decisions in the transfer market and the club not suffering the losses and their failure to improve the stadium situation. It's not rocket science thatb the ratio you boast about for the board is as it is. Their inability to improve the club commercially is completely uncontroversial as a statement. They're so piss poor at it they acknowledge the fact by letting outsiders run everything for them for a short term financial boost.

There is NOTHING this board of directors (in all its guises oer the past 12 years) has done substantially to actively boost Everton financially. NOTHING.

 

[Neiler]

Thats very subjective, demarcative - frankly its opinion. Fact remanins our debt to turnover ratio is what it is and the comparison to what what it was under Johnson is far healthier. How can turnover have increased by 300%, our debt to trunover ratio improved by almost 50% and yet you descrbe the club as a lame duck commercially, its like KEIOC ignoring the 3 mill kitbag deal when refrencing 650k (they assume) in the Nike deal, its monstors under the bed stuff. Taking the personalites, opinions and umimbiguous lines of demarcation i.e. seprating the manager and the board as two seprate enities and not the club out of it, thats not bad going overall.

 

[Chang Elephant]

Thats very subjective, demarcative - frankly its opinion. Fact remanins our debt to turnover ratio is what it is and the comparison to what what it was under Johnson is far healthier. How can turnover have increased by 300%, our debt to trunover ratio improved by almost 50% and yet you descrbe the club as a lame duck commercially, its like KEIOC ignoring the 3 mill kitbag deal when refrencing 650k (they assume) in the Nike deal, its monstors under the bed stuff. Taking the personalites, opinions and umimbiguous lines of demarcation i.e. seprating the manager and the board as two seprate enities and not the club out of it, thats not bad going overall.

If Johnson was still here, would the increase in turnover generated by sky tv money not have occurred then ? Why make this ****ing ridiculous comparison ?

 

[Neiler]

If Johnson was still here, would the increase in turnover generated by sky tv money not have occurred then ? Why make this ****ing ridiculous comparison ?

1) Watch your mouth u won't be warned again!

2) He had 8 years of tv revenue and managed to have our debt to turnover at Touching 100% ie our debt was the same as what we made annually - same equivalant today would be our debt at 80 mill - ill never understand why some people are Johnson fan boys.


Clearly the decisions how you decide spend it influence!