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fandjango

fandjango

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I am a lifelong blue. I have always loved our team. I was born and raised in the Days of Harry Catterick and Brian Labone. Always through the ups and downs I believed one thing. Behind the players was a great club. A club which believed in providing the best it possibly can for the supporters. For the FAMILY THAT IS EVERTON FOOTBALL CLUB.

Through the whole Blue Union / Kenwright in/out sage I have kept myself deliberately out of the debate. I have sat on a blue picket fence and got on with cheering our boys through thick and thin.

Now I am not so sure. you see in the past I have been clear that the board and the owners were as committed to the success of this club as I am committed to supporting them. I gave them the benefit of the doubt because I believed and still do that Kenwright is a huge fan of the club. The sticking point comes down to the word COMMITMENT

Who or what are the board committed to ? When I see comments from players like Pranjic saying we were too slow...when I see players not signed because they were pinched from under our noses by Harry and now when I see the dithering over Pienaar.....

I am approaching the stance that the board are not committed to our success in the same terms as we fans. To the board success is a financial balance sheet with no risk in it. To us success is a team with a chance at climbing out of the top 6 and really shaking the established top 4. A few simple additions Pienar Donovan......another Striker a Dempsey for example who'd make that dream a possibility. If we take the motto of our new shirt sponsor and JUST DO IT spend some money....take a punt and then when these players are in the bag WATCH as Moyes creates a team that CAN deliver and THEN reap the financial rewards.

Commitment to finances rather than growth is commitment to decline.

I am a blue. I will always be a blue. I wish the board could just see what they are doing to the morale of the supporters every tine they dither and fek about and lose another deal through procrastination
So for that reason I am now off the fence.

Sack the board. Get somebody in with ambition for success o the field....which will generate success in the bank
 

fandjango said:
I am a lifelong blue. I have always loved our team. I was born and raised in the Days of Harry Catterick and Brian Labone. Always through the ups and downs I believed one thing. Behind the players was a great club. A club which believed in providing the best it possibly can for the supporters. For the FAMILY THAT IS EVERTON FOOTBALL CLUB.
Through the whole Blue Union / Kenwright in/out sage I have kept myself deliberately out of the debate. I have sat on a blue picket fence and got on with cheering our boys through thick and thin.
Now I am not so sure. you see in the past I have been clear that the board and the owners were as committed to the success of this club as I am committed to supporting them. I gave them the benefit of the doubt because I believed and still do that Kenwright is a huge fan of the club. The sticking point comes down to the word COMMITMENT
Who or what are the board committed to ? When I see comments from players like Pranjic saying we were too slow...when I see players not signed because they were pinched from under our noses by Harry and now when I see the dithering over Pienaar.....I am approaching the stance that the board are not committed to our success in the same terms as we fans. To the board success is a financial balance sheet with no risk in it. To us success is a team with a chance at climbing out of the top 6 and really shaking the established top 4. A few simple additions Pienar Donovan......another Striker a Dempsey for example who'd make that dream a possibility. If we take the motto of our new shirt sponsor and JUST DO IT spend some money....take a punt and then when these players are in the bag WATCH as Moyes creates a team that CAN deliver and THEN reap the financial rewards.
Commitment to finances rather than growth is commitment to decline.
I am a blue. I will always be a blue. I wish the board could just see what they are doing to the morale of the supporters every tine they dither and fek about and lose another deal through procrastination
So for that reason I am now off the fence.
Sack the board. Get somebody in with ambition for success o the field....which will generate success in the bank
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Amen brother. You and me are the same generation. Your comment in bold is for me the most succinct and pertinent statement that I have seen written on this forum around this whole 'sack the board' debate.

(Would've repped you if I could have!)
 
fandjango said:
I am a lifelong blue. I have always loved our team. I was born and raised in the Days of Harry Catterick and Brian Labone. Always through the ups and downs I believed one thing. Behind the players was a great club. A club which believed in providing the best it possibly can for the supporters. For the FAMILY THAT IS EVERTON FOOTBALL CLUB.
Through the whole Blue Union / Kenwright in/out sage I have kept myself deliberately out of the debate. I have sat on a blue picket fence and got on with cheering our boys through thick and thin.
Now I am not so sure. you see in the past I have been clear that the board and the owners were as committed to the success of this club as I am committed to supporting them. I gave them the benefit of the doubt because I believed and still do that Kenwright is a huge fan of the club. The sticking point comes down to the word COMMITMENT
Who or what are the board committed to ? When I see comments from players like Pranjic saying we were too slow...when I see players not signed because they were pinched from under our noses by Harry and now when I see the dithering over Pienaar.....I am approaching the stance that the board are not committed to our success in the same terms as we fans. To the board success is a financial balance sheet with no risk in it. To us success is a team with a chance at climbing out of the top 6 and really shaking the established top 4. A few simple additions Pienar Donovan......another Striker a Dempsey for example who'd make that dream a possibility. If we take the motto of our new shirt sponsor and JUST DO IT spend some money....take a punt and then when these players are in the bag WATCH as Moyes creates a team that CAN deliver and THEN reap the financial rewards.
Commitment to finances rather than growth is commitment to decline.
I am a blue. I will always be a blue. I wish the board could just see what they are doing to the morale of the supporters every tine they dither and fek about and lose another deal through procrastination
So for that reason I am now off the fence.
Sack the board. Get somebody in with ambition for success o the field....which will generate success in the bank
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didnt leeds board take a punt and brought and brought more and ended up in league one
 

fandjango said:
I am a lifelong blue. I have always loved our team. I was born and raised in the Days of Harry Catterick and Brian Labone. Always through the ups and downs I believed one thing. Behind the players was a great club. A club which believed in providing the best it possibly can for the supporters. For the FAMILY THAT IS EVERTON FOOTBALL CLUB.
Through the whole Blue Union / Kenwright in/out sage I have kept myself deliberately out of the debate. I have sat on a blue picket fence and got on with cheering our boys through thick and thin.
Now I am not so sure. you see in the past I have been clear that the board and the owners were as committed to the success of this club as I am committed to supporting them. I gave them the benefit of the doubt because I believed and still do that Kenwright is a huge fan of the club. The sticking point comes down to the word COMMITMENT
Who or what are the board committed to ? When I see comments from players like Pranjic saying we were too slow...when I see players not signed because they were pinched from under our noses by Harry and now when I see the dithering over Pienaar.....I am approaching the stance that the board are not committed to our success in the same terms as we fans. To the board success is a financial balance sheet with no risk in it. To us success is a team with a chance at climbing out of the top 6 and really shaking the established top 4. A few simple additions Pienar Donovan......another Striker a Dempsey for example who'd make that dream a possibility. If we take the motto of our new shirt sponsor and JUST DO IT spend some money....take a punt and then when these players are in the bag WATCH as Moyes creates a team that CAN deliver and THEN reap the financial rewards.
Commitment to finances rather than growth is commitment to decline.
I am a blue. I will always be a blue. I wish the board could just see what they are doing to the morale of the supporters every tine they dither and fek about and lose another deal through procrastination
So for that reason I am now off the fence.
Sack the board. Get somebody in with ambition for success o the field....which will generate success in the bank
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Good post mate.

That bit highlighted: if they actually just did that and shut the **** up about 'backing the manager with 80p from every £' and 'we're ready for the challenge', and all the other insulting trash they trot out to make it sound like we're a club that's competitive, then they might get more respect. As it is they just add insult to injury.

They have no plan anymore. They were a busted flush after Kirkby but they simply haven't done the decent thing of selling up for a reasonable amount and walk away.
 
As much as Kenwright loves Everton, he must surely realise by now that the days of passionate fans running the club they supportted as a child are over. Football is no longer a passion but a buisness and as much as i commend his commitment to the club I think he needs to lower his valuation and sell his beloved team to someone who can breathe new life into it. We need the debts paying off and some investment into the team (before even considering Anew ground) and thats not going to happen if he continues to ask £130 million. Good buisness for him would be to sell the club for around £75 million and still more than double his initial investment before the club becomes a worthless money pit.
 
Disagree with the idea of just going and buying our way out of trouble, it will more likely kill us than make us great. But no argument with the dithering part, especially over Pienaar ffs.
That would actually be enough for me to believe we can have a good season again.
Naismith, Pienaar, Jelavic would be decent additions to a decent team and could be enough to actually start a season like a football team.
Didn't see the Pranjic interview/quote but it doesn't suprise me. We clearly needed to sell to buy and now Cahill has gone we will hopefully get Pienaar in with the wages generated.
 
The problem is most people have short memories.

If we cock up the signing of Pienaar, everyone will rage. Then if we make a good start to the season and beat Utd, do you think we'll hear a peep? Doubt it.

Kenwright and co have made so many mistakes its unreal, but people always forget until the next one comes along. Call me a cynic, but the fans of this club wont ever oust the chairman.
 

CahillsCornerFlag said:
The problem is most people have short memories.

If we cock up the signing of Pienaar, everyone will rage. Then if we make a good start to the season and beat Utd, do you think we'll hear a peep? Doubt it.

Kenwright and co have made so many mistakes its unreal, but people always forget until the next one comes along. Call me a cynic, but the fans of this club wont ever oust the chairman.
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Totally true we need to follow the example of the red****e and the way they force Gilette and Hicks out otherwise the board will destroy the club.
 
bluenose125 said:
As much as Kenwright loves Everton, he must surely realise by now that the days of passionate fans running the club they supportted as a child are over. Football is no longer a passion but a buisness and as much as i commend his commitment to the club I think he needs to lower his valuation and sell his beloved team to someone who can breathe new life into it. We need the debts paying off and some investment into the team (before even considering Anew ground) and thats not going to happen if he continues to ask £130 million. Good buisness for him would be to sell the club for around £75 million and still more than double his initial investment before the club becomes a worthless money pit.
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I honestly think the idea of him as a sentimental fan over his head is bollocks propaganda. He's in it to make money, simple as.
 
Ihaters said:
Disagree with the idea of just going and buying our way out of trouble, it will more likely kill us than make us great. But no argument with the dithering part, especially over Pienaar ffs.
That would actually be enough for me to believe we can have a good season again.
Naismith, Pienaar, Jelavic would be decent additions to a decent team and could be enough to actually start a season like a football team.
Didn't see the Pranjic interview/quote but it doesn't suprise me. We clearly needed to sell to buy and now Cahill has gone we will hopefully get Pienaar in with the wages generated.
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To be fair mate I don't think the suggestion was to just buy our way out. It's about financial accountability. Most of us will recognise that with about £10-15mm to spend (and what a difference it would make to our bargaining power if the rest of the market knew this was available) we could bring in the final few pieces of the jigsaw. The question is why is this not available? Sky has just materially upped its contribution to Prem teams, the banks are apparently off our backs now, and there is also the blatantly unexplained £28million of 'other expenses' in the last financial year - when we're struggling to put together £2 mill to buy Pienaar, £28 mill is a gaping big hole. So, as it has become customary to ask - WHERE'S THE MONEY BILL????
 

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