Should Martinez be sacked? (Post-Stoke poll)

Should Martinez be sacked?

  • Yes

    Votes: 121 20.3%

  • No

    Votes: 475 79.7%
  • Total voters
    596
  • Poll closed .
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banno said:
Not uptight at all chilled as can be. I am trying to stop you having depression or ulcers from your unhealthy hatred of Martinez. I am all for opinions and concede we are in a bad run but it is you who needs to take a chill pill and allow Martinez ,TIME' before binning him as a [Poor language removed] clueless manager. FFS he has only been here 5 minutes and now he is the anti-Christ the way you are talking. Think you just need to calm it a notch instead of trying to convince everyone that he is the worst manager since Mike Walker. Tell me a manager that has not made bad decisions (in hindsight) in the history of football and I will freely let you [Poor language removed] our new manager as much as you like without reply.
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You are very dramatic i am not trying to convince anybody anything they are all grown ups who can form their own opinions.
You have got well over excited in defending him.
I don't hate him i think he is lost.
Thanks for your concern about my ulcers though
 

MoutsGoat said:
Check the figures, come back with your own or please, pipe down.

Ive presented pretty solid numbers and YOUR comeback is to question the England? This isnt England Damo, its simple MATH.
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Solid numbers. From someone who can neither count or spell.

Ok then.


Disgrace.

#FFP
 
bicycleheader said:
Dont understand people looking for post match comments for comfort from their team playing badly....they mean nothing at all. Not. A. Thing.

What do you want him to change? He is trying to make us a squad accustomed to possession football as a basis.....you want him to change up from that as soon as things go bad? I dont agree, at least not in his second season, unless we are sitting in relegation.

The tactics everybody is clamouring for we have seen this season even if not always from the start...it hasnt made the impact people expect. I personally dont think this period will change until we get a break and a couple wins in a row, get some confidence back.

Again today, we click a little...look the better team and create a one on one opportunity to take the lead....luck hands us a crap ref decision and then one player defends miserably and we go one down. What do you think that does to the players AND the manager when in a bad period? Its a killer, and you have to admit its a scenario thats happened a lot this season.

Again, the manager is not the only factor in this poor league season.
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He's not the only factor at all, the players are massively to blame for completely under performing compared to last season.

However occasion after occasion last year our man Martinez was quick on his feet to make the correct subs and change our tactics and formations accordingly. Not seeing any of that any more, the subs today were useless and if it wasn't for them being pretty much forced we probably wouldn't have even made a change of note.

Possession is great but we actually don't even try to do anything with it. We are toothless, players passing sideways forcing us into bad situations and tucking in all the time instead of going out to the wing genuinely must be on the managers instructions. It's not like we're knee-jerking over this one result either, we've actually had a terrible premier league season and the win against Villa was the only convincing one we've had in the league. If that isn't enough to ring the alarm bells I honestly don't know what is, we are VERY close to a relegation battle. Have you seen our fixture list!!

We click 'a little' against a Stoke team. Stoke. At home, on boxing day, on the back of a 3-0 drubbing, under the lights... Not good enough for me.
 

bizzaro said:
Solid numbers. From someone who can neither count or spell.

Ok then.


Disgrace.

#FFP
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bicycleheader said:
Bottom line for me, we shouldn't be nor would it seem we can afford to be a club that sacks managers easily. Given this, a new manager taking over from a manager who had been here for years should be given at least a couple of seasons (for me 3...at least) to make his mark.....unless things get really disastrous and we are deep in a relegation battle with no sign of getting out.

What we are seeing here is people who can't handle defeats or a bad season in a reasonable manner, and therefore want a manager gone as if what we have seen so far this season is the only thing this manager can show us. (despite evidence to the contrary last season)

It doesn't need to be kneejerk or OTT all the time. If we the worst case scenario does not actually come then we are better off allowing a manager time, space and support to build something...as was given to the last boss.
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Accepting mediocrity is what caused us to go from one of the best clubs in Europe to a team where we are.

We need to have balance but we should always remember NSNO
 
daz4matty said:
You are very dramatic i am not trying to convince anybody anything they are all grown ups who can form their own opinions.
You have got well over excited in defending him.
I don't hate him i think he is lost.
Thanks for your concern about my ulcers though
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You are welcome.

I am not so much defending him as giving him more than 5 mins into his 5 years of planning.
 

I must admit the fact that I did make the booing today at Mr Martinez, my visit to the superdrome of the blues did not have the ending expected when I made my travel to Liverpool on the eve of christmas. I did not really want to make the booing but those around me making the booing also made my decision more easier.

I have been visiting the magical goodison stadia since a boy of 10 and I am now at 44 years, though I come only four or five times each year, and it it is so frustrating when I cannot come, but I still try hard.
I have made the yes to the sacking Mr Martinez vote as he makes me sad with the decisions, I would like Gary Megson to return to make it better, regards, from a French friend, Terence.
 
bicycleheader said:
Accepting mediocrity could also be seen as accepting that it is ok to give new managers the boot when we have a half a bad league season ;)
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It is. If we're in a relegation fight in January, he has to go. That's not being unfair, that's simply acknowledging that he's dramatically underperforming and action needs to be taken for business reasons.
 
The way I see it as well, if you're going to set the bar so high for yourself you simply can't fall that hard after. Or there will be repercussions.

Jelavic set the bar so high he wasn't ever able to lift his feet off the ground again, you know what I mean?
 

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