Mrk
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Well Cameron doesn't see it that way but keep spinning .
Who's the one doing the spinning, you or me? I just stated my opinion, whereas you're telling me what Cameron thinks, as if you actually know (you clearly don't).
Well Cameron doesn't see it that way but keep spinning .
What on earth?
Most of the ships in the world are built in South Korea aren't they?
We have got no aircraft carriers and half a fleet. Here is the Ark Royal now
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Makes me laugh all this "nothing to do with the Government". Who cancelled all the orders for ships then?
It's not the government shutting the factory down though Dave. If the yards were as exceptional as some folks would have you believe, then they'd no doubt have lots of customers from overseas and wouldn't be in this situation. The reality is though that their only customer was the British government.
Again, true, but its not like the independence referendum is on a knife edge, 'no' has quite a substantial lead, and it's very likely that it will stay that way.
'Losing' Scotland wouldn't be a disaster for the country, it'd be a disaster for Scotland, but the rest of the Union could cope perfectly well without them - it would also help the Tories electorally. And let's be honest, there's no love lost between England and Scotland, so if they did leave it's not like Cameron would be punished come election time.
As for the EU, leaving wouldn't be a disaster, and as with my previous point, we're a pretty eurosceptic country, so Cameron wouldn't be punished if we did leave, because we'd only leave if the electorate voted that way.
As far as I know, up here Cammell Laird do repairs to existing ships, as opposed to building more.
At the moment, I think.
Not sure British workers building the British armies ships is such a bad thing meself.
Errr.... we need 30 frigates and we have 19. We need aircraft carriers and we have none.
Madness.
Defence Budget cut by eight per centMakes you wonder how it could ever get to such a situation.

Defence Budget cut by eight per cent
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/defence-budget-cut-by-eight-per-cent
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Daily Mail.What a picture that is !!
I can still find my way to the smoking area just looking at it !
Where did you find it Coach ??
Dunno but the Tories got rid of more ships than the Argentinians sunk in the Falklands war. The pen is indeed mightier than the sword.Christ, that's shocking to see it represented like that.
Is there a similar picture for the RAF cuts?