Why, are you worried Sue ?Would think that would not go down well either, in fact I'm sure you're job would go right down the shitter. Hope that helps..
Delargeinho
Player Valuation: £6m
It is and finanical disadvantage can be compensated by good work to a certain extent. I was actually surprised he went from a European spots challenging team in Spain to a relegation fighter in the prem from a sportive sight, financially it's another thing, Villarreal has 125m revenue, that's Burnley level, good enough to be in the top 6 in Spain.
Emery is a world class (myb with some Basque bias) and title proven manager on a European level. I'm sure he would have succeded at Arsenal with the time given like Arteta. Much respect what he has done in Villa in that short time. It will show whether they can fight for CL and overachieving the next 7-8 seasons or going back to a normal region, which is around West Ham.
The question is the price you pay for success. We spent big in the first Moshiri years hoping to get that immediate big success, but we spent in dimensions never possible or sustainable for club of our size and lost the financial humilty of the 2004-2014. We reached the ceiling in the table in this period, but I agree we missed out of that "overachievement", which is a group stage in CL or cup wins.
Brighton will be an interesting case to see. A well-run club that overachieved last season, getting into Europe over teams like Chelsea. They're doing smart transfers and not spend headlessly big with the 100m+ from transfers like Caicedo and likely Ferguson to come. It will be interesting to see, if they can keep their level, knowing where they come from and where they are or go a similiar way to Southampton. Or lose the mind to suddenly start spending.
Always been stressing that Dyche was the right appointment in 1/2023, but shouldn't be kept over 6/2025 in any circumstances as he is not a long-term solution.
Considering the whole season Dyche has done ok, I expect us to finish between 11-15 in normal circumstances and we would have been likely out of this relegation battle and finish somewhere there, despite the bad 2024 and start of the season, mainly due to a good run from mid october-mid december. I judge Dyche's work on 31 points not 25.
But saying again, I don't accept the points deduction for our underachieving run over the last 3 months and some tactical decisions. It should be considered to a certain point, as we might lose 10 points of points we would have had in a normal season, but it's too easy to put it only on that. Yeah, you know I'm hostile towards points deduction given during the season due to distortion of competition, it should be given at the start.
Simon Buttle
Player Valuation: £50m
Most people don't understand how the Brighton model actually works. It's purpose is to sell players and generate money for the club, but they don't mind that as they are always prepared and well ready for it. When they bring a senior (first team) player in, they also bring in an under21 player who is basically a direct replacement for the player they have just bought. The youngster get's a year of coaching, maybe then a loan somewhere then when that first team player is attracting the top 6 teams it doesn't matter as they already have a ready made replacement waiting too play. They have numerous good youngsters out on loan in the Championship at the moment who are just waiting to get a chance in the PL and even further down they have plenty of talented youngsters coming through the academy. When they buy players it's often just to top up what they have already there.
Zatara
Player Valuation: £90m
I think its almost guaranteed that he stays until his contract expires.
Of course at that time, we will have the new stadium with multiple new commercial revenue streams which should put us on a better footing.
Any new owner would surely want a statement manager and I think we may be able to bring one in as we should have a clean slate on transfers & the new attractive stadium.
Zatara
Player Valuation: £90m
A number of years ago I was calling for us to invest in u21s as 'backup' players to come through and push out the established players....then each summer sell some and reinvest.
It seems in theory to be a straightforward model. Thelwell hopefully is looking at that model with the youth hes trying to bring in.
At the same time though, i do feel we would need to hold onto a handful of top prospects to build the team around.
The end of next season with a new manager and signings by Thelwell hopefully making a mark...we could have some positives.
Furey1878
Player Valuation: £70m
The way xG works we'd have to have like 200 pot shots and a dangerous chance to get an xG of 3
Delargeinho
Player Valuation: £6m
Believe me, I spent hours of studying their philosophy and was impressed.
I struggle to express something in compact in English, as it's my 3th language. In terms of recruitment and scouting they are on a world class level and for me it's one of the most sustainable and best led club in the world.
I am sure we could establish something similiar here too with the right people on board, it will last a few years of hard work to do so and hopefully pay off in the end. Surely we cannot continue having no strategy at all.
Brightons model isn't sustainable.
It allows no room for error.
They will get relegated within 2 years.
Delargeinho
Player Valuation: £6m
Doubt that it will be in that time, but there is the risk to go the Southampton way surely within few years.
But how would you overturn Everton to bring it into the right directions?
Add on the fact that it seems that selling clubs, whichever country they`re in, appear to have got wise to Brightons business model and aren`t selling unknown players cheaply to them anymore.
It can't be done under current and future owners.
Delargeinho
Player Valuation: £6m
That's a good point, they will be competing with Ajax, Benfica and such clubs who have been doing that for decades and having some of the best talent academies in Europe in addition.
DualityNSNO
How much for the pair?
Is it? Or do we never look and approach the relative safety of the proven struggler?
Geraerts went, as Belgian coach of the year, to the even bigger even more limited than us skip fire that is Schalke and he's doing okay on the ridiculous limitations in the 2nd division, while playing good football with players who aren't even 2nd level for the most part. Good coaches will want to prove themselves and will trust a project.
The managers I mentioned plied their trade exactly in skipfire conditions themselves, or with limitations for several years, while getting their teams to midtable or higher spots and cup progress, and then going on to manage big teams. As I mentioned him already - Geraerts went to a struggling team that started much like we did - 2 wins in 7-8 games - and is currently doing okay on literally 0 money or flexibility for anything, which is genuinely worse than us.
Which is exactly what Klopp did too, but went from player to manager.
Which is how Tuchel plied his trade - struggling team in the BuLi (ironically, Klopp's old team too
), finished outside of relegation, went on to improve his staff by seeing what's wrong with it, improved position, finished 5th. They kept losing players and had to sell and buy cheaper ones because of the lack of money but kept finishing mid table and going on cup runs and repeating the process, after which he resigned and used his knowledge/tactics to improve in his next role and win things with a bigger team.I do not see Dyche doing any of the improvements as he hasn't - same staff as Burnley, same play as Burnley, same results as Burnley - fighting relegation.
It is literally quite far away - Dyche has brought no success other than mediocrity and winning the relegation fight, which was my point. I suppose we can use "won the championship" here too as some sort of achievement, but it's not something he's ever built upon.
Must have* ffs mate!
You probably did - we played managerless and Mitrovicless Fulham at home, even Dyche bigged up the importance, and we came in the game too scared to play and got dispatched easily.
Palace away - 0:0, and for literally no reason starting and persisting with Holgate when he wasn't even half in it, so we had to defend for dear life against a side limping to the finish line.
Forest 2:2 - went up 1:2 and had absolutely no idea how to control a game, shat the bed and tried to park the bus, nearly lost in the end.
As a side note - we absolutely stroke luck to even get a point vs Leicester due to the importance of playing Michael Keane, who got absolutely owned by the limping Jamie Vardy. If that finished with a Foxes win we'd be in the Championship now.
Winning at least 1 of those games means we don't have to rely on results in other games at all, and it didn't have to boil down to the last game. But then it was also expected that we can't win football games.
Furey1878
Player Valuation: £70m
Assuming 1 happens, for me if he gets us stable and in to the top half in that time, he'll deserve a few windows were he can actually spend.
Interestingly though, in his post match interview after Bournemouth last season, he explicitly said let's get things stable and competitive and then bring a "fashionista" in. Was surprised to hear a manager speak about his own demise.
What could have been...
