Sandhills station


Are you saying that you've been in meetings with Chong since the test events and he's said in those meetings that the club are happy with the transportation developments from test one to test two event?

No, I'm saying that I've been in meetings with the club where they have said that they are satisfied with their transport strategy in recent months. He has since declared the most recent event a "resounding success". Unless you know that he's said otherwise.
 
Why not, if the council has failed to deliver on agreed provision in the transport plan?
Because, put simply, the club still need to have working relationships with the council. What's being said in public and behind the scenes, may be vastly different.

The club is concerned about the transportation situation, however throwing the council under the bus (rightly or wrongly) to the wider public isn't the right option...

... just yet.
 

Bring a blue home.
I live in a village 2 miles outside of a market town and recently the buses that run between the two have had extra services added. Instead of finishing at 5pm they now run until about 7.30pm. They have also extended the service so that it goes to the train station which is half a mile from the normal end point in town. The last train leaves the station at 7pm. The train from London gets in at 7.05pm. You couldn't make it up.
 
No, I'm saying that I've been in meetings with the club where they have said that they are satisfied with their transport strategy in recent months. He has since declared the most recent event a "resounding success". Unless you know that he's said otherwise.
It's clear you're running with a supposition based on nothing.

There's two issues here: the stadium operation - deemed a success by Chong; the transport operation - which Chong stated needed looking at with the local state and Merseyrail.

Chong made the distinction when speaking after the last test event: he distinguished between the two issues; he didn't collapse them into one as you have.

What you are claiming is a complete reach. A shot in the dark and clearly does not fit in with what Chong said after the Bolton test game.

If you can find me anything where Chong specifically state's he's happy with the way transportation went on either test event then you have a point to make here; until then you're merely muddying the waters on behalf Rotheram.
 
I've been in several meetings with the club, including Colin Chong.... and this has reflected their stance regards transport throughout. The test events are at least as much about the transport as they are the stadium. "Resounding success" was the club's verdict. The only way you'll see if there is any conflict is if the club are included in the public debate. "Resounding success" suggests they see no issues (at least publically), or certainly don't want to face any contentious questions regards their transport plan or the transport group that they chair.
If Chong did say or does think that the transport arrangements were a resounding success then clearly we need to call for the nurse.
 
Because, put simply, the club still need to have working relationships with the council. What's being said in public and behind the scenes, may be vastly different.

The club is concerned about the transportation situation, however throwing the council under the bus (rightly or wrongly) to the wider public isn't the right option...

... just yet.

Correct.

To believe Everton have deemed transportation "a success"...unless otherwise stated...is a completely daft position to hold.

It's clear enough to me: Everton are keeping a wise counsel and saying not much - letting Rotheram stew in his own piss with every "success" story he tries to peddle about getting to and from this stadium.

He wont win this war. He should ask Burnham about that. If he thinks he can, with hundreds of thousands of Evertonians on his case, he's as stupid as he looks.
 
It's clear you're running with a supposition based on nothing.

There's two issues here: the stadium operation - deemed a success by Chong; the transport operation - which Chong stated needed looking at with the local state and Merseyrail.

Chong made the distinction when speaking after the last test event: he distinguished between the two issues; he didn't collapse them into one as you have.

What you are claiming is a complete reach. A shot in the dark and clearly does not fit in with what Chong said after the Bolton test game.

If you can find me anything where Chong specifically state's he's happy with the way transportation went on either test event then you have a point to make here; until then you're merely muddying the waters on behalf Rotheram.

No supposition or muddied waters from me whatsoever. The Club's transport plan is in black and white and they have been questioned on it many times over several years. Has it been deviated from, and/or has the council failed to deliver on anything clearly outlined in it? As far as I can see, it hasn't!

"Resounding success" is the stated response for the whole test event. That infers no real reservations, including the only reference to transport, which is one of continued work through the transport working group, which the club itself chairs.... nothing negative mentioned, unless I've missed it elsewhere.
 

Because, put simply, the club still need to have working relationships with the council. What's being said in public and behind the scenes, may be vastly different.

The club is concerned about the transportation situation, however throwing the council under the bus (rightly or wrongly) to the wider public isn't the right option...

... just yet.

If they're concerned about transport because the council have failed to deliver the agreed provision, then they have legal recall. However, this doesn't appear to be the case.

The safety certificate is stadium related only, and the club cannot be held to ransom if the stadium is fully safety compliant. We have no idea if there are any agreed capacity-capping or other clauses that can be invoked by the council yet, but the club will be aware if there are.
 
If they're concerned about transport because the council have failed to deliver the agreed provision, then they have legal recall. However, this doesn't appear to be the case.

The safety certificate is stadium related only, and the club cannot be held to ransom if the stadium is fully safety compliant. We have no idea if there are any agreed capacity-capping or other clauses that can be invoked by the council yet, but the club will be aware if there are.
There is a subtle difference between failing to provide what the council must provide/have agreed to, and what they should be providing.
 
There is a subtle difference between failing to provide what the council must provide/have agreed to, and what they should be providing.


It isn't a "given" that local authorities have to provide infrastructure.... as has been shown at multiple other stadium developments. Those responsibilities are agreed in the planning negotiation stage..... so we can shout for evermore about what we think should be there, but if the club has failed in that planning negotiation process, then they are at least complicit or equally culpable. The transport plan was published over 5 yrs ago!
 

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