Sam Allardyce

So, what next?

  • IN. Give him a chance and see what he can do?

    Votes: 79 8.3%
  • OUT. Thanks but no thanks. See Ya?

    Votes: 758 79.3%
  • As ever. Cheese on Toast

    Votes: 25 2.6%
  • Er, I am a bit scared of us Evertoning this right up.

    Votes: 94 9.8%

  • Total voters
    956
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Biggest nail in the Big Sam coffin was yesterday. He takes the players away to Dubai. Can you discern one piece of training from that trip that paid off yesterday?A blueprint for how we would win the game apart from keep solid and hope to nick one?Did the players look inspired?Did they look refreshed? There was nothing. Big Sam does nothing except keep teams safe that's all he does.

..it’s certainly looking this way. I hoped he might be the right person at the right time and he would grasp the opportunity to have a good team on his CV but that is looking increasingly unlikely. He worked miracles getting us so many points by Christmas but the biggest challenge was always going to be making us more progressive. Still work to be done, but if we stay up it will be interesting if he gets to at least see out his contract.
 

He can’t be here next season. We can’t have him in charge trying to sneak a goal away to teams like Watford if we have any sort of ambition to challenge for silverware.
 
I hate Sam and want him out ASAP, but we simply HAVE to hire a new D of F first and lock down SOME idea behind what we want to be as a club. The D of F needs to make the coaching decision. I also don't want Sam here next year, but at least THE THREAT of him being here next year can motivate some players. You fire him immediately, you can't have a rent a manager. You also can't hire a guy like Silva, who has a particular way he wants to play, and then hire a D of F that doesn't agree with that philosophy.

So to me, the D of F has to come first, and ideally it would come NOW so that they can get a feel for the club in all its current glory.
 

Would’nt even trust him in the scouting role. Surely in his current role, he must have watched a number of players that we have signed during ‘his watch’. In truth very few are the required standard and have cost the club 10s of millions. It would just be cheaper to sack him and pay up his contract then allow him to waste more signing players.

But he's not signing players in a scout role. His evaluation skills are obviously decent, he didn't spot all those LCFC players by being lucky.
 
I don’t know what I think mate.

I fear he will be.

I hope he won’t be.

Moshiri has shown that he caves in to fan opinion. He sacked Martinez (who, grimly, had more points at this stage in his final season than 'Miracle Worker' fathead) , got rid of Koeman after just qualifying for Europe and winning 14 of 19 home games the season before, and avoided giving it to Unnnnnnnnsy. He only panicked and appointed Allardyce when no one else was available.

He will listen to the baying hoards and sack Allardyce.
 
Moshiri has shown that he caves in to fan opinion. He sacked Martinez (who, grimly, had more points at this stage in his final season than 'Miracle Worker' fathead) , got rid of Koeman after just qualifying for Europe and winning 14 of 19 home games the season before, and avoided giving it to Unnnnnnnnsy. He only panicked and appointed Allardyce when no one else was available.

He will listen to the baying hoards and sack Allardyce.

Sadly I’m not hearing enough from the hoards at the moment.
 
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..it’s certainly looking this way. I hoped he might be the right person at the right time and he would grasp the opportunity to have a good team on his CV but that is looking increasingly unlikely. He worked miracles getting us so many points by Christmas but the biggest challenge was always going to be making us more progressive. Still work to be done, but if we stay up it will be interesting if he gets to at least see out his contract.

Can you please explain the " miracles " bit for me ?

The way I see it, was that he initially tightened the defence up ( which I`ll give him credit for ) and we had some amazing luck in games that we could have very easily lost - penalties, teams hitting the post etc.

We`ve played well once this season, against West Ham, even then we massively rode our luck at times and that game wasn`t down to Allardyce.

Even the games that we`ve won, have by and large been dreadful to watch.

It`s knowing when to stop digging mate x
 

Can you please explain the " miracles " bit for me ?

The way I see it, was that he initially tightened the defence up ( which I`ll give him credit for ) and we had some amazing luck in games that we could have very easily lost - penalties, teams hitting the post etc.

We`ve played well once this season, against West Ham, even then we massively rode our luck at times and that game wasn`t down to Allardyce.

Even the games that we`ve won, have by and large been dreadful to watch.

It`s knowing when to stop digging mate x

..I absolutely agree he was very lucky, indeed i’ve said many times I wasn’t sure how he got that points return (luck, bounce, tactics). However he did it, he did it and it was an amazing turnaround even if it wasn’t pretty.
 

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