Sam Allardyce

[larbert toffee]

Heads rolling clean off here

Yes mate you quote old school clique you're not in their league.

 

[MrGrumpy]

He's not definitely gone. There's zero proof of it at all.

He will not be Everton manager next season

 

[orly]

He will not be Everton manager next season

That's just an optimistic guess though.

 

[Toast]

Yes mate you quote old school clique you're not in their league.

Indeed.

 

[Moomin]

He will not be Everton manager next season

Pretty sure every week before his press conference you claim he is saying he will quit or be sacked.

 

[Encoder]

That's just an optimistic guess though.

If the esk said he'd be signing a new bumper 5 year deal to be the highest paid manager in the league, then i'd feel a bit more confident about him leaving. Sadly though that's the opposite of what he's said so it's utterly nailed on he's staying.

 

[funkygibson]

Dunno, I'm waiting for Moshiri to tell me otherwise. So far, it's all just very hopeful.

Would you sack him for Marco Silva?

I’d sack him for Marco Pierre White

 

[windymiller]

My expressions exactly watching these responses come in. Shambolic posting by some members on here. And I'll call them out right here:

@MrGrumpy
@larbert toffee
@irishgoose

Shame on you for ridiculing our saviour out of this club.

SHAME ON YOU
Sam is a bit crap like though and I bet they fall for it again

 

[catcherintherye]

Possibly I could see Brands / Silva working. Brands / Allardyce no chance.

Not sure why people have so much confidence in Moshiri to get this right. He appointed Koeman, who on the field did ok first season, but off field inflicted massive damage (Bolasie? Williams? £45m Gylfi? Klaassen?). Then we had the Unsy debacle. Then you've got Martin O'Neill being on the final shortlist - and we would have been relegated with him.

I agree with you Moshiri seems to escape without anywhere near as much criticism as he ought, but to put some defence of him each decision did make some sense at the time. He wanted a big name as he probably overestimated our clout in the transfer market. He again overestimated what Walsh could do (and underestimated the breadth of the DOF) but again I can see some sense in that decision after Leicester won the league. Allardyce for me is one of the worst decisions in my time of watching Everton, but I can see why he just wanted a manager who could us up and had suitable experience. Allardyce and O'Neill kind of fit that.

However it makes no sense whatsoever now not to change the DOF and change the manager. There is no logic in that. It's not even like, if you replace Steve Walsh it makes Allardyce more likely to stay, or vice versa. You lose one you likely lose the other. We really do need to be very very worried if he if either stay beyond the summer, as it shows he's either complacent, has no real ambition or makes terrible decisions.

It will e good to get a proper DOF and CEO in to run the club. Moshiri may well have competence outside of football, but he's been badly shown up within it. He hasn't grasped how it works, and while some justification can be made for decisions at the time, most of them have turned out to be disastrous which is either really unlucky or more likely indicative of someone who lacks the necessary foresight. For me a proper CEO and DOF to run the football side of the club, who can then report into him and get him away from decision making will be a big step forward.

 

[stretford blue]

I agree with you Moshiri seems to escape without anywhere near as much criticism as he ought, but to put some defence of him each decision did make some sense at the time. He wanted a big name as he probably overestimated our clout in the transfer market. He again overestimated what Walsh could do (and underestimated the breadth of the DOF) but again I can see some sense in that decision after Leicester won the league. Allardyce for me is one of the worst decisions in my time of watching Everton, but I can see why he just wanted a manager who could us up and had suitable experience. Allardyce and O'Neill kind of fit that.

However it makes no sense whatsoever now not to change the DOF and change the manager. There is no logic in that. It's not even like, if you replace Steve Walsh it makes Allardyce more likely to stay, or vice versa. You lose one you likely lose the other. We really do need to be very very worried if he if either stay beyond the summer, as it shows he's either complacent, has no real ambition or makes terrible decisions.

It will e good to get a proper DOF and CEO in to run the club. Moshiri may well have competence outside of football, but he's been badly shown up within it. He hasn't grasped how it works, and while some justification can be made for decisions at the time, most of them have turned out to be disastrous which is either really unlucky or more likely indicative of someone who lacks the necessary foresight. For me a proper CEO and DOF to run the football side of the club, who can then report into him and get him away from decision making will be a big step forward.

The appointment of a new CEO is interesting surely it will be filled internally either baxendale or Ryazantsev which for me would indicate no great shift in direction .

 

[MrGrumpy]

That's just an optimistic guess though.

Other then he has a contract, nothing points to him staying.

 

[canuckblue]

The appointment of a new CEO is interesting surely it will be filled internally either baxendale or Ryazantsev which for me would indicate no great shift in direction .

Either would be a massive upgrade on Suntan Bob.

 

[Efcjake]

Other then he has a contract, nothing points to him staying.

Some of his quotes about preseason planning and identifying targets do.

 

[stretford blue]

Either would be a massive upgrade on Suntan Bob.

That there is no doubt, but would have liked us to have looked outside at someone with a proven track record within the industry

 

[MrGrumpy]

Some of his quotes about preseason planning and identifying targets do.

at no point has he said he staying tho