Runcorn


Put a red rosette on a pig and people would vote for it.
I'm more tolerant of it now. The established parties consistently let people down and screw them over. There's a lot of thickos out there who still believe there's a politician who has their interests at heart. When they get angry, they lurch to the "easy answer". It's as much labours failure as theirs.
 

What is @davek take on all this?

When you get a sell out Red Tory Party in power you get political opponents like Reform taking safe seats off you.

I just saw Starmer on the telly saying that the message he received last night was "we have to pick up the speed for all our policies and enact them"....the policies that just seen them battered by Reform.

The Former Labour Party are heading for a split.
 
When you get a sell out Red Tory Party in power you get political opponents like Reform taking safe seats off you.

I just saw Starmer on the telly saying that the message he received last night was "we have to pick up the speed for all our policies and enact them"....the policies that just seen them battered by Reform.

The Former Labour Party are heading for a split.
I agree partly...they definitely haven't been left wing enough economically, but what can they do about the immigration stuff, people genuinely think migrants are causing all their problems and so voting reform
 

I agree partly...they definitely haven't been left wing enough economically, but what can they do about the immigration stuff, people genuinely think migrants are causing all their problems and so voting reform


They lost in Runcorn because they couldn't get their own vote out; they couldn't get their vote out because they've spent the last 9 months attacking their (former) supporters with their neo-liberal policies.

They're a party who caters to business interests now primarily. People see that and desert them.
 
They lost in Runcorn because they couldn't get their own vote out; they couldn't get their vote out because they've spent the last 9 months attacking their (former) supporters with their neo-liberal policies.

They're a party who caters to business interests now primarily. People see that and desert them.
Fair point about where the left vote has gone...i was saying earlier it hadn't gone to reform or green it stayed at home
 
Fair point about where the left vote has gone...i was saying earlier it hadn't gone to reform or green it stayed at home


The media will demonise Reform even more now. But I cant see anything - other than Farage being offered the Tory leadership job - that stops them steam-rollering the Tories in the south and Labour in the north.
 

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