No one's saying we don't have scum mate, but to say that we're anywhere near the level of Liverpool's support is just ridiculous. 1. Liverpool have far more supporters hence a higher number of scummy fans. And even if you didn't, those stories mentioned previously don't lie. When in Everton's history have we massacred 39 Italians? Did we fight amongst and try and break into Wembley when we were in a cup final like you did at both Champions League finals? Did members of Everton's support try and kick down an ambulance? OF COURSE, no one is saying ALL Liverpool fans are to blame for these incidents, but it seems your support are the absolute WORSE for jumping on high horses and sounding off about 'disgusting' and 'twisted' Everton fans. About 30 Evertonians throwing plastic bottles is hardly on a par with what you lot have got up to over the years. And as for the 'murderers' chant, it's not good, but all it is is a reminder to your self riteous holier than thou fans that you have a dark history, and your consistant looking down upon other clubs and their fans will not be let go. How come Everton fans don't sing, or at least on the same scale, about Munich? Still Scousers v Mancs isn't it? The answer is obvious. Ask UEFA, ask neutral fans, ask anyone who's got the worst behaved fans and you'll get your Chelsea, your Millwall, your Leeds and you'll get your Liverpool right up there.
Thanks for your reply mate.
I wasn't in Istanbul and this is the first I've heard of fans fighting to break into the ground that night. I was in Athens two years later however (with a match ticket) and what I went through to get into the stadium that night was a very unpleasant experience. However lets not just assume that Evertonians would have conducted themselves in an exemplary manner if the tables were turned, how many blues snuck into Wembley in '86 without a ticket? The ground was well over capacity that day, and they weren't all reds!
Again you've highlighted some isolated incidents in your post. Alan Smith's ambulance being attacked, whilst appalling, was conducted by a few dick-heads outside the ground who didn't even attend the match! You can't taint the whole of our support by highlighting incidents like that, as the same could be done in reverse.
I'm glad you admit that the 'murderers' chant is wrong, but to then try and subtly justify it by saying it's some sort of reminder to our 'self righteous' fans? Come on! That's just ridiculous. What happened at Heysel was awful, it was a terrible disaster, but it's a disaster that all like minded Liverpool supporters wish never happened! You might get the odd delusional prick saying he's not arsed etc, but it goes back to my original point. I am not a murderer, neither are my friends and family members. The chant is wrong and it should not be sung at the match.
For your information by the way mate, I don't recall
anyone on rawk saying that Everton fans are 'disgusting' or 'twisted' for throwing some bottles onto the pitch.
I have made my points on the Munich chants in my previous post, but a lot of blues have sung it at Old Trafford in recent times. Never seen or heard it myself, I was informed of it however by one of my mates who owns a season ticket at Goodison.
Like I said, scum at every club, and Everton have their fair share too. I don't like how some on here try and completely demonise our support every time some of their own support have misbehaved.