Ronald Koeman discussion

[TheGeek]

Spot on...

I do agree, although Bally is probably a little bit biased as he was on the receiving end of Koemans man management style whilst He was at PSV. He knows first hand how Koeman can alienate players.

 

[COYBL25]

Martinez lived in an alternate reality, but you could at least see what he was trying to get the players to do.

It's very hard to fathom what fat head is actually trying to do with his team selections and tactics.

OUT.

 

[TheGeek]

I've always rated Sigurdson but he has to play behind the striker or its a waste of time. Thats always been the case at Swansea and Spurs.
Sandro may well be a bargain but he's still nowhere near good enough for our first team.

Sandro must have something about him to score all those goals for Malaga, too soon to be writing him off, I personally feel.

 

[TheGeek]

Yes he did Moshiri confirmed all the signings were Koeman's in that interview deadline day

If that is the case, I'm struggling to understand what Steve Walsh's role is. I thought he was here to do the scouting and transfers.

 

[Axlswhk]

When we are playing inferior team and our 2 defensive midfielder touches the ball more than any of our attacking players, something is terribly wrong.

 

[pedrom]

I've seen some poor Everton teams in my day, but I don't recall seeing a squad with so little shape and balance. Koeman has completely deconstructed a good outfit into a bunch of headless chickens. Really quite embarrassing at times

 

[TheGeek]

Oh, i agree. Like @chicoazul said, he is a dour, unlikable person. Which would be fine if we were rolling or even playing great(/unlucky) football. We're literally doing the opposite. I just don't see the reasoning to persist with this. And Im sure people will say "think of the how much we would have to pay him off!" but I almost guarantee those are the same people who were screaming "it's not YOUR money!" when a lot of people were thinking it was madness paying £45m for Sigurdsson.

He has never been a particularly good man manager, which i believe is a really big attribute for a manager to have. I'm of the opinion, rightly or wrongly, that Koeman get's his jobs based on his reputation as a player.

He just seems to alienate an awful lot of players and has a track record for it. There is just something about him that is disagreeable, stubborn if you will, my way or the highway type of managing.

It can sour an atmosphere around a club and when that happens the writing is on the wall most of the time.

 

[Stuartisitc1878]

I've seen some poor Everton teams in my day, but I don't recall seeing a squad with so little shape and balance. Koeman has completely deconstructed a good outfit into a bunch of headless chickens. Really quite embarrassing at times

yep, and it's more than just losing Lukaku's goals. The whole team looks awful.
It seems to be a trend with our managers. Martinez took Moyes hard working, defensively solid team and gave them some attacking flair but once he had time to stamped his mark on the team we looked like Wigan. Koeman comes in and takes Martinez's defensively frail, unfit side team and puts a bit of grit and fitness back in there. Now he's had time and and more money than any manager before him to turn us into his team and we look as bad as anything Martinez produced. It's pretty grim

 

[Lapeno77]

Sandro must have something about him to score all those goals for Malaga, too soon to be writing him off, I personally feel.

Hell should be playing off a target man, say DCL. Start them pair up front on Sunday and bring Niasse on after 60 mins.

 

[Dr O]

...pretty sure that in reference to whether his ar5e is on the line, Ronald will say "...Butt Okay"

 

[TheGeek]

Out

Succinct and to the point, not a man to mince your words then.

 

[ToffeeTim]

In all fairness, Tim, Koeman's said many, many times that he didn't want Barry to go.

He'd have been exactly what we needed in Europe this year.

We should have kept him. There would have been lots of game time for him. I'm still slightly baffled by the decision. It was nice. We are all very nice. Everton doing nice things cause we are nice.

 

[Mrk]

"But that's football" is becoming the new "Phenomenal".

 

[TheGeek]

I remember under Martinez when it started too unravel and an awful lot of individual mistakes in games were costing us goals. The same seems to be happening again.

It's not hard to see that the confidence is shot to bits, Koeman isn't a motivational style of manager, not sure what type of manager he is if I'm honest.

I also remember a lot of people questioning the coaching, again I'm seeing that around the internet. I'm sure we all love Duncan, but how is he as a coach, I'm not sure and get the feeling he is around as the 'Everton' connection.

It was allowed to continue under Martinez far too long and although sacking managers every five minutes isn't the direction most of us would wish to go in. Sometimes you have to cut your losses before real damage is done because currently I don't see how it is going to turn around.

 

[Little Ralphy]

we look as bad as anything Martinez produced.

I don't think that's true. Under martinez we looked like we'd concede a goal everytime the opposition had the ball, or we had a corner. We're nowhere near those levels. It's just very disjointed at the minute, but I think the basis is there, he just needs to find the right balance, and then address the lack of pace in January.