Even if he is committed purely for his own success, that in turn means he is committed to Everton being a success...
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Even if he is committed purely for his own success, that in turn means he is committed to Everton being a success...
Gwladysstreetlad
Player Valuation: £50m
At some point in the future? Maybe but for me it's far to much to far to quickly and I'm not convinced he'd be good enough (personally I don't think he ever will) at this stage of his career for such a step up from Bournemouth to us. The expectations are as different as day and night.
neil999
Player Valuation: £80m
exactly, there are suggestions he is just here to pick up a salary...which i dont believe, cant prove 100% either way i guess...
Kind of like from Wigan to Everton...
I like Howe - like how I liked Martinez at Wigan.
That's possibly not a great sign...
MACCA75
Player Valuation: £70m
Call me crazy, but with talk of a hundred million transfer kitty, I wasn't really expecting an incredibly imbalanced squad at the end of it. The window was nowhere near good enough, and your analysis was based on you overrating the current relegation fodder of a squad.
Possibly, yes.
I didn't think it would need too much work, based on what we had seen at the time, to get them to adapt.
I'll happily admit I was wrong.
I think Koeman's thinking might've been the same as well...
Blue Cheese
Mental Patient, GOT Ward
I'm not having that a professional athlete can't press for 90. I haven't played for 15years and I could still listen to a managers instructions taking the field, yet somehow, he can't get his message across. That has to boil down to the manager.
MikeH72
Player Valuation: £100m
Eddie Howe is 10x the manager Martinez is
Roger Milla
Player Valuation: £20m
Davies should of had a lot more game time. For him to come on against Chelsea, put every senior plater to shame only to not even make the bench on the 4 or 5 games since is a disgrace... as was dropping Holgate (who was arguably our best defender earlier in the season) for Coleman as soon as he regained fitness.
He is doing the opposite of integrating the youngster into the first team by playing Coleman, Cleverly and McCarthy ahead of them.
This is my thinking too, but I don't think he'd be the right person just yet.
I'm basing that on the last managerial move he made, from Bournemouth to Burnley.
He's young, so I hope it's not a case that he has the McClaren syndrome of only being decent at one club.
Tony Hibbert's 3rd leg
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Koeman is known to be a cold manager, but his body language vs Watford spoke volumes. I and many others do not like the lack of animation on the touchline, but I think the reason for it is that he has in a way given up on the players.
Again, this is at the heart at some of the debates regarding who is most to blame for our current predicament. In my opinion there are only a handful of players that don't need binning. To reiterate an earlier point, I think 7 of the 11 starting vs Watford were players starting two, three seasons ago, 10 of the 18 were squad members, and the rest were signed since 2014 and are not good enough.
Now, even if you had won the league last year you would need 3/4 quality first team additions to the squad, on the basis that every team in the league are doing the same or more to catch up. So with this in mind, on the evidence that we've achieved nothing and gone backwards the last three seasons, how is it that the majority of our squad and first 11 is still full of players who are evidently not the ones to seriously challenge for European places, because hardly any of them have actually got any better. Look at the top teams in the league, most will have squads unrecognisable to those in 2013, an the handful that still make their squads are of top quality and proven winners.
I'm not letting Koeman off the hook, far from it. And I hate to sound like im blaming previos managers. Its recruitment that been the major failing, simply put we've been left behind. But I'd like to see Koeman helm a squad that is not full of players who never got us to where we want to be.
Again, this is at the heart at some of the debates regarding who is most to blame for our current predicament. In my opinion there are only a handful of players that don't need binning. To reiterate an earlier point, I think 7 of the 11 starting vs Watford were players starting two, three seasons ago, 10 of the 18 were squad members, and the rest were signed since 2014 and are not good enough.
Now, even if you had won the league last year you would need 3/4 quality first team additions to the squad, on the basis that every team in the league are doing the same or more to catch up. So with this in mind, on the evidence that we've achieved nothing and gone backwards the last three seasons, how is it that the majority of our squad and first 11 is still full of players who are evidently not the ones to seriously challenge for European places, because hardly any of them have actually got any better. Look at the top teams in the league, most will have squads unrecognisable to those in 2013, an the handful that still make their squads are of top quality and proven winners.
I'm not letting Koeman off the hook, far from it. And I hate to sound like im blaming previos managers. Its recruitment that been the major failing, simply put we've been left behind. But I'd like to see Koeman helm a squad that is not full of players who never got us to where we want to be.
I agree - though Seamus is our first choice and imo you don't lose your place due to injury.
Holgate is a centre-half who will be a full-back, but he made mistakes and still has a lot to learn.
I hope he gets more gametime. Same with Davies.
But I think it's pretty clear Koeman wanted to look at the experienced first-teamers and what they had to offer first. Which is a completely logical thing to do.
Now, if Davies comes into the team, he'll be hyped by our fans so much (and don't even argue he wouldn't be) that he couldn't possibly live up to expectations when he inevitably comes in and we get beat 3-0 or something.
It's a lot easier to bring youngsters into a team playing with confidence.
That being said, I do think he should be more involved, but that's based on a few U23 games I've seen and his minutes on the pitch for the first team. I don't see him day in day out.
He has a lot of "past it" and "not up for it" squad. Jags and Baines are done, sadly; I love the bones of the pair of them but the mistakes are costing us. Stek and Robles are both backup keepers at best. Barkley, Kev, Del and Lennon are massively inconsitent, Mori is an accident waiting to happen. Lukaku is Lukaku, cracking goalscorer but if he can't be arsed then everyone knows it.
Bolassie and Williams have contributed to the squad but both have shown massive mistakes in their game over the past couple of weeks.
That being said, the tactics of hoofing it long to a striker who has the control of bag of cement is not helping matters either. Changing personnel and formation yet the same "hit and hope" system seems to be applied. This is at Koemans door and what I find most strange.
Bolassie and Williams have contributed to the squad but both have shown massive mistakes in their game over the past couple of weeks.
That being said, the tactics of hoofing it long to a striker who has the control of bag of cement is not helping matters either. Changing personnel and formation yet the same "hit and hope" system seems to be applied. This is at Koemans door and what I find most strange.
jaycee
Player Valuation: £60m
I agree with blue toff that the squad is very unbalanced,its a problem we have had since Moyes days,I think the timing of Koemans appointment didnt help and the people in charge of recruitment failed massively,but he needs to be seen to be doing something to stop the slide,be that a change of formation,tactics,personell just anything to show he is bothered,because if we reach the end of January and theres no real recruitment or change in fortune would you back this lot in a relegation battle?
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