Relegation

[Goat]

Still aghast at how he just volleyed into his own net under minimum pressure against Spurs. Weeks later.

You can only laugh.

What a club.

 

[bring back the catt]

Stay with us? I'm not sure where that came from, I have been a blue for over ,60 years now, I went to my first game in 1962. I went to away games all through the 70's when, at one point, we hadn't won away for over a year. We used to sing on the coach on the way to the match, ' keep right on till we win away from home'. I'm a. Blue through and through and will be until I die and I have never seen the club in a position like this.

As for our current owner, he is a liability and his stupidity in the fiscal running of this club has us far closer to oblivion than we have ever been, even in the week before the Rooney sale. We will came through this, Everton existed before Moshiri and we will, in some form, exist after him, but, please dont expect me to go along with all this 'he'll come down from his Ivory tower stuff. He won't, he's just trying to hang on long hough to get a decent portion of his investment back. Progress is not, by the way, inevitable if we stay up.

Now I won't ask you to 'stay with us Catt', I accept that you have every right to your opinion, but, equally, I have every right to mine. This man is not an Evertonian, he is a businessman, I'm not even sure if that is how to describe him, given the circles he mixes in. He is, at this point, just looking for a way out. Until he is gone we can't progress. A new stadium is all well and good, but, at what cost. I have never seen this club in such a position in all my born days. I don't just mean the relegation thing, I mean the fact that we have become a laughing stock.

Don't disagree with you on any of your points Roy, but I was not insinuating you are not a real Blue and I apologise if I came across in a patronising way.
My main drive is that this club NEEDS fans like you and I was attempting to, in a pretty poor way obviously, that we can only exist with you and your ilk.
Desperate times indeed, but the enemy is out there, not within.
Apologies once again, and trust we all enjoy our weekend. For more than one reason of course, but a win tomorrow puts us all in a better place. As indeed would be a complete clear out of Owner and Board by seasons end.

 

[Cool_Blue]

Still aghast at how he just volleyed into his own net under minimum pressure against Spurs. Weeks later.

A brilliant finish

 

[gazzaa2]

I thought we finally had momentum with the Newcastle win with 10 men in time added on.

But this lot seem to just settle back into comfort mode and dont or cant keep the focus.

If we beat United tomorrow I could easily see them switching off again.


Let's have it right: there is easy enough games to get clear (and even if we have a tougher run in these tougher teams to beat are maybe distracted). Its doable. But this group of players do not relish the fight. They look like they dont want to get on the pitch and they look relieved to get off it.

We generally fight and battle at home (the fans demand that) but they have a mental block away from home as Dyche said. There's enough to get some good results at Goodison.

 

[DanEFC92]

A brilliant finish

What a kin donkey he is

 

[Goat]

What a kin donkey he is

On first viewing I was like "Nice finish from Kane", then I saw the replays.............

 

[ExpatinBangkok]

Stay with us? I'm not sure where that came from, I have been a blue for over ,60 years now, I went to my first game in 1962. I went to away games all through the 70's when, at one point, we hadn't won away for over a year. We used to sing on the coach on the way to the match, '
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Now I won't ask you to 'stay with us Catt', I accept that you have every right to your opinion, but, equally, I have every right to mine. This man is not an Evertonian, he is a businessman, I'm not even sure if that is how to describe him, given the circles he mixes in. He is, at this point, just looking for a way out. Until he is gone we can't progress. A new stadium is all well and good, but, at what cost. I have never seen this club in such a position in all my born days. I don't just mean the relegation thing, I mean the fact that we have become a laughing stock.

I'm also a blue for the last 43 years. But moshri has put 100s of millions into Everton, that's real commitment. The most disruptive thing for a club is changing managers and their staff too often. As Everton fans we have been demanding new managers too often, we panic-1 manager every year for last 8 years basically - that's massively disruptive. Even now, there are fans wanting a new manager to replace Frank. Yes it's easy to blame moshri, the higher ups, but let's look at ourselves.

 

[Papa Shango]

I don't really get this thinking of wanting to go down so we can "rebuild". If we go down we are not coming back for a very very long time. The bigger teams that are "too good to go down" are the ones that tend to find it harder to bounce back. Leeds, Blackburn etc. I'm praying for our miracle...

I somewhat understand the logic behind it but it really is not that easy and the assumptions that some people have about easily rebuilding and coming back up will probably be the thing that does us in. People will be fuming if we don't batter Luton, Coventry, Rotherham etc, and we more than likely wont.

 

[DanEFC92]

On first viewing I was like "Nice finish from Kane", then I saw the replays.............

Then I saw the replays...

 

[Drico]

I'm also a blue for the last 43 years. But moshri has put 100s of millions into Everton, that's real commitment. The most disruptive thing for a club is changing managers and their staff too often. As Everton fans we have been demanding new managers too often, we panic-1 manager every year for last 8 years basically - that's massively disruptive. Even now, there are fans wanting a new manager to replace Frank. Yes it's easy to blame moshri, the higher ups, but let's look at ourselves.

Replacing the manager - or demanding the sacking of a manager - is only a symptom of the problem. The cause is appointing the wrong manager in the first place. THAT is what needs to change. Our recruitment is abysmal - and not only at playing staff level. Our recruitment of managers - Carlo excepted - has been abysmal. Our recruitment of a director of football has been abysmal. Our recruitment of footballers has been abysmal. So, recruitment is the problem.

Sacking a failure is a symptom of this, whether that is Schneiderlin, Brands, or Lampard.

 

[Toff33Blues99]

No need to check other results. We can't pick points up so it doesn't matter what others do. Eventually one of Burnley and Watford will get their act together and overtake us.

 

[overkill]

I somewhat understand the logic behind it but it really is not that easy and the assumptions that some people have about easily rebuilding and coming back up will probably be the thing that does us in. People will be fuming if we don't batter Luton, Coventry, Rotherham etc, and we more than likely wont.

Been watching Coventry this season due to working in Birmingham, they have more fight then us would beat us more often than not.

Our centre backs wouldn't handle Gyrokeres, and Hamer would run the midfield.

Also Coventry suck, so we can't go down lol

 

[roy vernon]

I'm also a blue for the last 43 years. But moshri has put 100s of millions into Everton, that's real commitment. The most disruptive thing for a club is changing managers and their staff too often. As Everton fans we have been demanding new managers too often, we panic-1 manager every year for last 8 years basically - that's massively disruptive. Even now, there are fans wanting a new manager to replace Frank. Yes it's easy to blame moshri, the higher ups, but let's look at ourselves.

Mate, if you think that he gives a fwxk what we want thats up to you, who appointed all those managers? Who appointed Benitez? This money you talk of is actually a millstone round our neck , he hasn't given it to us, he's loaned it to us and then converted a lot of loans into equity on the club by issuing more shares thereby devaluing the shares of other shareholders.

As for one manager a year for 8 years, one of those was Moyes, who left before Moshiri came in, the others who were sacked were sacked by Moshiri.

We are in the most perilous position financially, and, in all probability heading for relegation, we have a new stadium under construction for which we have yet to secure finance, but yeah, Moshiri is a Prince among men, you're quite right it is easy to blame Moshiri, that's because its his fault.

 

[toffeemeister77]

When I see our current center backs I think how unappreciated Weir and Stubbs were back in the day. What I'd give for right them now in their youth

Hopefully Mina will be back soon though.

 

[Del-boy]

I don’t think we will win another game this season. We are going down, in resigned to that now. I was there at Wimbledon and Coventry but much younger. It felt like just a game of footy back then.

Now it’s all I think about. Iv still not got over Wednesday night, think about it at work and in bed. My dads nearly 70 and never seen us relegated. I guess this is something we can go through together.

The only positive I see if that we can start again. Sell this load of jokers, get the wages down and hopefully get the stadium built. That should give us a renewed sense of positivity and optimism in the future.