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Dyche saying his half time team talk was that Everton don’t know how to win football games is about as damming as it gets for us in general.

We can’t even grind out draws anymore.

Can only see us as down and not coming back for at least a decade.
To be honest, that was very clever by Dyche. We are their main rival for the drop and he has come out on national tv and basically got in the head of every one of our delicate little flowers. With every continuing loss, those words will ring louder and louder and be quoted everywhere.
 

The manager needed to be more circumspect too. No need to go looking for a 3rd. Conolidate the lead and dont get beat. That was the bottom line last night.
I mostly agree.

The issue with this however is that defensively we're all over the place and have been for a while. Would Frank have been confident with not conceding again?

I wasn't, hence the need for another goal. It's a balancing act, and one I don't trust us to get right very often.
 

We all sat back and allowed this club to appoint a kopite, we sold our soul.

We deserve it.
I refused to enter the ground again. A stadium I had been a loyal attendee since 1954. One where I refused to renew my season ticket in the LGS, which I had had since 1962.
A minor token, but one I felt I had to do. It hurt.
I knew my absence would not be missed, but nothing could dissuade me. Heck, even 'fellow' posters gave me grief with some stating 'my kind' needed culling and were a stain on our club. This, despite the fact that I cared not about comment or connection, but because he was a washed up mess when he was kicked out of the RS a decade earlier.

I will return next season and believe we will still be a Premier league club.
 
Imagine how incompetent you have to be to sack a manager, call a board meeting then decide Frank Lampard is the right man to get us out of a relegation scrap.

Pure genius.
tbf they have tried all the other options

nick other teams managers ✓✓
superstar manager ✓
Sam Allardyce ✓
apoint rivals hero ✓

Not a lot of alternatives left really, though we remain Steve Bruce free thank god.
 

After last night's debacle, I think we'd be deluding ourselves if we thought we could take an away point the rest of the season.

That leaves us with Man U, Leicester, Chelsea, Brentford and Palace at Goodison

10 points from those 5 games keeps us up.

Does anyone think we have a real chance of doing that? I mean, I guess anything is possible. But I think it would take an act of god, personally
 
To be honest, that was very clever by Dyche. We are their main rival for the drop and he has come out on national tv and basically got in the head of every one of our delicate little flowers. With every continuing loss, those words will ring louder and louder and be quoted everywhere.
If our players are that easily influenced then we have no chance.

I think it more likely he was trying to get into the heads of his own players.
 
I mostly agree.

The issue with this however is that defensively we're all over the place and have been for a while. Would Frank have been confident with not conceding again?

I wasn't, hence the need for another goal. It's a balancing act, and one I don't trust us to get right very often.
You cant think like that in a relegation scrap. You have to hold what you have.

Against WHU that should have been played out to a draw, but we went looking for a quick second; against Burnley the second half should have been all about two banks of four and five protecting what we had.


It's not that hard for Lampard to understand. But I dont think he'll ever do that; and for that reason if we dont win against united I'd have him out by 3PM Saturday afternoon.

Yes, the players are rubbish and to blame. But setting up a lot more cautiously in every game he's had as manager could have yielded us many more points.
 
After last night's debacle, I think we'd be deluding ourselves if we thought we could take an away point the rest of the season.

That leaves us with Man U, Leicester, Chelsea, Brentford and Palace at Goodison

10 points from those 5 games keeps us up.

Does anyone think we have a real chance of doing that? I mean, I guess anything is possible. But I think it would take an act of god, personally
Maximum of about 7/8 points.

And I dont even think the 35 points we'd get in your projection would see us over the line.

Realistically, we need to win 4 of those 5 home games...or 3 of those and hope we beat Watford away.
 

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