Redevelope Goodison could it be done?

[BlackToffee]

It cant be done...

..our only realistic things are either stay at Goodison (which isnt very realistic), move to the docks (which are being taken over by peel skyskrapers in the next few years) or a groundshare, which actually makes the most sense and would benefit both teams, but some fans are silly and wont consider it

Whatever option is taken will be difficult. Personally, I think a shared stadia is the most difficult of the options as those with shared stadia find their different needs leads to a slow unravelling of the idea. Walton isn't exactly a rich part of the city of liverpool, so the idea of a hotel / conference centre has some merit, but it would require a commerical partner who believes that the hotel / conference will be used beyond a match day tie in to make commercial sense.

My options would be;

(1) The Council to look to make Walton a regeneration area and attract a higher level of external funds and partners (given the financial climate, that would probably be 4/10)

(2) Simply take out a loan (£250m) and part of the corporate and other income from the stadia pays back the loan. The issue would be land and acquiring it and the length of the loan and attendant interest. (5/10)

(3) A commercial tie up with the only real players in town Peel Holdings (7/10), or explore the Sainsbury's link up at Walton Hall Park (4/10)

(4) Develop an overall design for a new stadia and build it bit by bit (6/10), though it would still suffer the constraints of planning permission and likely loss of income during the development.

Nicks and tucks on the existing stadia, or even the new planned development without a more global view of how it fits into a stadia (existing or new) is very, very short sighted.

 

[Tubey]

Destination Kirkby was a massive missed opportunity in terms of finance, even if morally it would have been a bad call.

When that collapsed, we basically resigned ourselves to at least thirty years of mediocrity if we're lucky. Without a big takeover, we're going to languish for the majority of our lifetimes.

 

[Neiler]

Destination Kirkby was a massive missed opportunity in terms of finance, even if morally it would have been a bad call.

When that collapsed, we basically resigned ourselves to at least thirty years of mediocrity if we're lucky. Without a big takeover, we're going to languish for the majority of our lifetimes.

This.

 

[Brennan]

I'd be interested to know what the cost would be to rip off the current roof structure and replace it with a lightweight carbon fibre construction that would negate the need for the terrible white obstructions. God knows how much money the club loses each year on season tickets that people don't want to buy because of the obstructed views.

 

[davek]

Destination Kirkby was a massive missed opportunity in terms of finance, even if morally it would have been a bad call.

When that collapsed, we basically resigned ourselves to at least thirty years of mediocrity if we're lucky. Without a big takeover, we're going to languish for the majority of our lifetimes.

Even the club had to admit it'd generate only an extra £6M per season. Alternative use was forbidden; and the club would have also been locked into all kinds of gimmes by the local council: allowing them stadium use and contributing cash to changes to the transport infrastructure in that town. It was a complete pisstake. The only opportunity lost was the current board's to sell on to new owners a PL club in a brand new stadium, and some lazy Knowsley councillors looking for a quick fix for the borough's problems.

 

[BlackToffee]

Destination Kirkby was a massive missed opportunity in terms of finance, even if morally it would have been a bad call.

When that collapsed, we basically resigned ourselves to at least thirty years of mediocrity if we're lucky. Without a big takeover, we're going to languish for the majority of our lifetimes.

Fully agree. I've made this point over and over again. But I would say that the Kenwright / Gregg dispute put paid to the Kings Dock bid, and that has to be laid at the door of the board.

 

[trigger the blue]

With Valencia looking at trying to get a new stadium why not buy theres take it apart and rebuild it on the Goodison site like a big maccano set that would be right up kenwrights street me thinks!

 

[icburns]

If we ever secure the funds to redevelop Goodison, it should be rechristened "Betterson Park." Just sayin'.

 

[roddie]

I'd be interested to know what the cost would be to rip off the current roof structure and replace it with a lightweight carbon fibre construction that would negate the need for the terrible white obstructions. God knows how much money the club loses each year on season tickets that people don't want to buy because of the obstructed views.

there are far more restricted views underneath the existing stands, it's not so much the white posts, more the blue ones- twice as many half way back underneath, especially lower bullens

 

[trigger the blue]

First thing they should do is put the second tier on the park end. But NO funds,so its no go! Im gutted!

 

[trigger the blue]

NO MONEY close thread!

 

[zed]

Having watched the copa del rey,i just wondered if Goodison could be redeveloped along the lines of the Mestalla stadium with its steep stands and intimidating atmosphere, with Goodison being land locked i think it would be a viable option,with a capacity of 55,000 would be ample for us!
The only problem how much would it cost?

we arent land locked. if you budge the park end stand back 50yds or even a bit more, then rebuild the gwladys st taking the church out of the equation, bingo. where theres a will theres a way.............. but no one is bothered