realistic transfer improvements

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I am not sure about names but I think that the position that we most need to fill is creative midfielder.
I mean someone like (cough!) Coutinho who can open up teams with passes and link up play as well as score goals themselves.
Osman is probably our closest player and it is noticeable the difference he makes when he comes off the bench but he is not really a 90 minute player anymore. Barkley is an explosive player and a great option but not yet as strong at creating chances for others.
 
If we don't try for begovic in the summer then we are mad, we need to find a cb in the Mold of kompany
 
Anders Lindegaard? Would probably love the first team action he's not getting at Old Trafford. Would be relatively cheap for an International keeper.
 
babyhayley said:
We would have to sell before we could buy. I'd like to see Deulofeu returning on loan in January. Now that would be nice.
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Can I ask why you think this is the case? Lukaku cost the same amount of money that we received from selling Fellaini, we also sold Jelavic and Anichebe for about 14 million combined, and we will also be receiving approximately an extra 90 million or so over three years as a result of the new TV deal.

I think the club have got one eye on the possibility of building a new stadium, but other than accounting for the associated costs of building a new stadium, I don't see why we should have to sell to buy so early on after receiving the increases from the new TV deal.
 

Think we've got a strong base but need to tweak in certain parts so I'd say.

Sell Howard - £1mil. Replace with Cech (probably similar price)

Sell Coleman - £15 mil. Get another Irish RB for around £50k. Hibbert can play until new RB gets good enough

Sell Stones - £6 mil. Now he's in England squad will play too many games so get shot for someone who wants to play for Everton.

Sell Jagielka - £2 mil. Past it. But knowledge of club and experience as captain is important. Replace with Yobo.

Free Distin - Scum based on that little rumour I heard from a website I've forgotten.

Sell Baines - Past it. LVG hates Luke Shaw - straight swap.

Sell Mirallas/McGeady - £15 mil the pair. Everyone always moans at the wingers so ship em out and don't play with them. Release Atsu.

Sell McCarthy - £25mil - will never have a higher value. Replace with Rodwell £12 mil.

Sell Barkley - £20mil. Injury prone. Will be like Gazza. Sign Siguurdson £8 mil.

Sell Lukaku - £25mil. Clearly past his best and hopefully price hasn't fallen too far. Buy a world class striker with all the cash

So:

Cech
New Irish RB
Yobo
Alcaraz
Shaw
Rodwell
Barry
Osman
Naismith
Eto'o
Best striker in the world.
 
Dymak said:
Can I ask why you think this is the case? Lukaku cost the same amount of money that we received from selling Fellaini, we also sold Jelavic and Anichebe for about 14 million combined, and we will also be receiving approximately an extra 90 million or so over three years as a result of the new TV deal.

I think the club have got one eye on the possibility of building a new stadium, but other than accounting for the associated costs of building a new stadium, I don't see why we should have to sell to buy so early on after receiving the increases from the new TV deal.
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Give it a rest with your creative accounting mate. It's not simply the case that United gave us £27m in a one off lump sum, nor is it true that we haven't spent anything between selling Felli and buying Lukaku. And we had to pay some of the fee direct to Standard as part of the sell-on clause, so we didn't get a full £27m for him anyway. Call it £25m?

Surprised that you have forgotten about McCarthy (for instance) whom we purchased the same day we sold Felli. That's £13m of Felli's transfer fee gone already, unless you choose to believe the claim that we didn't have to sell to buy at that point - and if you believe that then there's no point you reading the rest of this post - We also dropped £5m-ish on Kone and paid a hefty loan fee for Lukaku last year: Call that £20m spent, leaving £5m? Need I go on?

Why don't you log onto transfermarkt and remind yourself of all the other players we've signed since then: Besic for instance? McGeady? My point is that every penny of the Felli, Jelavic and Cheebs sales (around £40m in total) may well have already been spent... Lukaku, McCarthy, Kone and Besic cost roughly £50m combined.

Just because the income stream from TV has increased substantially does not mean we should suddenly go out and emulate Richard Pryor in "Brewster's Millions" - we still have to live within our means. Given that we almost doubled our record transfer fee just two months ago I would doubt there's much wriggle room left in the cashflow right now. By the simple maths above, I think we've already spent £10m of last season's TV money that you believe is lying around untouched.
 
Tree13 said:
Give it a rest with your creative accounting mate. It's not simply the case that United gave us £27m in a one off lump sum, nor is it true that we haven't spent anything between selling Felli and buying Lukaku. And we had to pay some of the fee direct to Standard as part of the sell-on clause, so we didn't get a full £27m for him anyway. Call it £25m?

Surprised that you have forgotten about McCarthy (for instance) whom we purchased the same day we sold Felli. That's £13m of Felli's transfer fee gone already, unless you choose to believe the claim that we didn't have to sell to buy at that point - and if you believe that then there's no point you reading the rest of this post - We also dropped £5m-ish on Kone and paid a hefty loan fee for Lukaku last year: Call that £20m spent, leaving £5m? Need I go on?

Why don't you log onto transfermarkt and remind yourself of all the other players we've signed since then: Besic for instance? McGeady? My point is that every penny of the Felli, Jelavic and Cheebs sales (around £40m in total) may well have already been spent... Lukaku, McCarthy, Kone and Besic cost roughly £50m combined.

Just because the income stream from TV has increased substantially does not mean we should suddenly go out and emulate Richard Pryor in "Brewster's Millions" - we still have to live within our means. Given that we almost doubled our record transfer fee just two months ago I would doubt there's much wriggle room left in the cashflow right now. By the simple maths above, I think we've already spent £10m of last season's TV money that you believe is lying around untouched.
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My 'creative accounting' sounds just as 'creative' as your's.

Tree13 said:
Why don't you log onto transfermarkt and remind yourself of all the other players we've signed since then: Besic for instance? McGeady? My point is that every penny of the Felli, Jelavic and Cheebs sales (around £40m in total) may well have already been spent... Lukaku, McCarthy, Kone and Besic cost roughly £50m combined..
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So given the figures you refer to above, an additional 10 million has been spent on top of the revenue gained from player sales. My point is that the TV deal has, or at least will do, provide us with far more than an extra 10 million pound. In fact it is going to provide us with close to an extra 100 million pound over a three year period.

You may have a point regarding cash flow, although it is a point based entirely on conjecture, as are my opinions on the financial scenario at Everton.

Cash flow problems are why many clubs gain cash advances on future revenue, which may well be the reasoning behind the recent loan that we have taken out. But ultimately, I find it very hard to believe that Everton are right back in to 'sell to buy' mode, after spending not that much on top of revenue gained from selling players. To put it simply, a lot of the 'selling to buy' has already taken place, but on top of that we have the new TV deal.

As I said, I'm aware that the owners have one eye on a new stadium, and that's something that just has absolutely no chance of happening if we are already back to being skint after spending circa 10 -15 million pound on top of the revenue gained by player sales.

I believe there is a lot of money still available, if the club are keeping the money to contribute towards a new stadium then that is fine, but there's no way I am going to accept that an extra 100 million over three years has all dried up already, or that spending an extra 15 million on top of player sales has left us bone dry.
 
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People will remember Bobby saying in January that he was saving available money (from the Fellaini, Anichebe and Jelavic sales) until the Summer. Well then we have the extra TV money on top of that, not just this year's, but an awful lot of money over a three year period.
 

Dymak said:
and we will also be receiving approximately an extra 90 million or so over three years as a result of the new TV deal.
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It's just a shame we couldn't keep that info to ourselves, those pesky agents and their football playing clients all want a taste.
 
streeky said:
sell Lukaku for 25mill buy Julio Arca from willow pond fc in the sunderland pub league div 2 ,who will play for a plate of pie and chips and no loss in our team performance.
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Haha I thought this was a joke, but it's not, only 31 as well, his career has taken a serious turn for the worse.
 

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