Question for you...

[Khalekan]

I doubt the money raised from selling two star players would even look at the cost of a new stadium so no.

 

[SpurtingLesbian]

Yes I would. Depending on if it was a good stadium of course, and ideally a redone Goodison. We could be great this season and still nothing, then this season is gone and quickly forgotton, a stadium would be forever.

not only that the the income from the new stadium (more seating, more better hospitality/corporate nonsense) would give us the extra spending power to buy better players in the future. It would actually increase us reletive to the other clubs round about us unlike the TV money increase everyone gets.

 

[Verbal Kint]

Think this topic was my first ever thread on G.O.T and something I was just talking about last night with a United buddy of mine. I think unfortunately we will be forced to sell Stones this summer and the way Lukaku's agent is always banging on he could be on his way too. When I say forced I mean the players will probably want to leave for Champions league football, getting back to your question, with the £100m them 2 could fetch your probably looking at £30m reinvested in players, the board would likely look to pay say £20m of our dept, that leaves £5Om to play with or invest in new stadium.

If the board had a site or even a proper plan in place I could handle these lads leaving but since they don't I wouldn't be to enamoured to see them bank £50m.

 

[Big Neville Southall]

Seemingly you'd be happy qualifying for the gravy train cup, personally I'd rather see Everton win silverware than giant comedy cheques.

I do prefer to win stuff, the CL when we qualified was crap, but if you get regular CL then that increases your chances of winning stuff regularly, and I don't think we can do that without doing something with the stadium.

If you look at who's won the domestic Cups over the past 21 years, then the none CL teams who have won stuff are in a very small minority and don't go on to maintain that success. I cba checking a list but ourselves Portsmouth, Tottenham, Wigan spring to mind and probably a couple of others as the exceptions, but I think only Tottenham have won more than one Cup in that time. So perhaps at best, we could be like Tottenham, which isn't bad, but even they're looking to do a new ground, so it's not good enough for them.

 

[The Esk]

Without significant investment way beyond the value of selling Lukaku and Stones (which is a crazy idea in terms of our footballing ambitions) the stadium would have no impact on our finances. The cost of financing the debt pretty much equals the increase in revenues.

In the absence of a takeover keeping the team and investing further in the team is most important as particularly from next season prize money will have a greater impact on finances than marginal stadium revenue increases.

 

[Dithering Dougie]

I do prefer to win stuff, the CL when we qualified was crap, but if you get regular CL then that increases your chances of winning stuff regularly, and I don't think we can do that without doing something with the stadium.

If you look at who's won the domestic Cups over the past 21 years, then the none CL teams who have won stuff are in a very small minority and don't go on to maintain that success. I cba checking a list but ourselves Portsmouth, Tottenham, Wigan spring to mind and probably a couple of others as the exceptions, but I think only Tottenham have won more than one Cup in that time. So perhaps at best, we could be like Tottenham, which isn't bad, but even they're looking to do a new ground, so it's not good enough for them.

Apart from Utd and Arsenal teams that regularly qualify for the CL have big benefactors and their stadium size is largely irrelevant to their finances.

 

[Reidy's Bottle Of Grecian]

we'd sell the players & it'd either be an undisclosed fee or the sell on fee we'd have to hand over to whoever would leave us short buit be enough to fund something for them.
& we'd take out a big fat bvi mortgage with an interest rate higher than if we just used wonga instead.

 

[COYBL25]

Would you be happy to sell two of our big stars if it meant it gave us money for a new stadium?

No, just look at Bolton, spanking new stadium followed by relegation and now on the verge of going bust.

 

[Big Neville Southall]

Apart from Utd and Arsenal teams that regularly qualify for the CL have big benefactors and their stadium size is largely irrelevant to their finances.

All of them have done stuff to their stadium though, so perhaps that was in their list of requirements when they invested? I say perhaps because they're not going to tell me are they, and I have no intention of searching for documents to back me up.

Also, I think a stadium is such a huge part of a clubs identity. I would like Everton to be the best in that sense. I ultimately think Everton should strive to be the best in all areas, and a stadium is a major part of one of those areas. Good teams come and go. The stadium issue has been a weight on our back for so long, we need it off.

 

[Groucho]

Would you be happy to sell two of our big stars if it meant it gave us money for a new stadium?

No

 

[Dithering Dougie]

All of them have done stuff to their stadium though, so perhaps that was in their list of requirements when they invested? I say perhaps because they're not going to tell me are they, and I have no intention of searching for documents to back me up.

Also, I think a stadium is such a huge part of a clubs identity. I would like Everton to be the best in that sense. I ultimately think Everton should strive to be the best in all areas, and a stadium is a major part of one of those areas. Good teams come and go. The stadium issue has been a weight on our back for so long, we need it off.

They've all improved their stadium whilst also improving and investing in their squads, and that's a massive difference to what you're suggesting. At present the only area we can compete with these clubs is on the pitch to weaken ourselves deliberately for a new ground would set us back further and the gap would widen probably beyond being bridgeable for many a year.

 

[The Esk]

They've all improved their stadium whilst also improving and investing in their squads, and that's a massive difference to what you're suggesting. At present the only area we can compete with these clubs is on the pitch to weaken ourselves deliberately for a new ground would set us back further and the gap would widen probably beyond being bridgeable for many a year.

Agree with much of this other than is the gap bridgeable?

Without investment it is not, and unless there is a huge uplift in our commercial and sponsorship revenues globally in addition to the investment then it is already too great.

 

[Darren Gibbs]

I think we need it in the long run. I would be happy to trade if it meant we got a new stadium. All teams lose their best players, So i think eventually when the elite come calling then there wont be alot we can do. We need the new stadium

 

[Darren Gibbs]

Also a new stadium would bring in new owners for sure

 

[Big Neville Southall]

They've all improved their stadium whilst also improving and investing in their squads, and that's a massive difference to what you're suggesting. At present the only area we can compete with these clubs is on the pitch to weaken ourselves deliberately for a new ground would set us back further and the gap would widen probably beyond being bridgeable for many a year.

I'm not bothered sorry, I'd prefer to have the stadium sorted and languish mid table for a bit then rebuild, you wouldn't, you have faith that we will go on, we may do, but I would be happy to sacrifice that, you wouldn't. No problem, we have different mind sets. I really cannot see us reaching a common ground.

I think we're going to have to disagree on a hypothetical situation that we have zero say or influence in. It's either that or we spend the day getting locked in an argument of defiance and end up needlessly disliking each other and getting totally behind on my work!