arminisgod
Player Valuation: £35m
if major factories are able to go back to work I don't see how footy games behind closed doors can't.
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Football is not more important than the nation's health. We don't need to restart.
Plus, being played behind closed doors shows the contempt that the higher ups and TV companies have for match going fans.
Plus, being played behind closed doors shows the contempt that the higher ups and TV companies have for match going fans.
chrismpw
Player Valuation: £70m
You're right if course - but I was hoping that some sense might germinate amongst those of the players who wish to shield their families and these players put some pressure on the union and that there are enough of them that the union take it on board.
I mean - if anybody in society can afford a hiatus in their wages right now it would be footballers.
nikom court
Player Valuation: £20m
if football players driving to training grounds is essential travel then so is myself have a nice drive out to the countryside!
I suspect that the restarting of the league will be underpinned by the government's desire to bring back some level of normality to the population - entertainment.
Thus, their travel arrangements be conveniently ignored or accepted. Also, I suspect there'll be the argument that it's part of their daily exercise.
As long as they're training for a longer period than it takes to travel to the training ground, they'll be okay.
But... but... that'll impact on the tax of the country or wasn't that Taylor's first reply to the idea? You've got the Chelsea first team not taking any deferral at all.
Like I said, the PFA will not accept any changes that will really impact the players in the long-term, so their interest in the population will be minimal at best.
Chris O'Connor
Player Valuation: £35m
The premier league seem to think they exist in a bubble isolated from reality and the rest of the world.
I realise tv rights and money is at the root of these impossible apirations but which ever way you look on these plans, they are totally devoid from reality.
They have originally set out a wildly optimistic but unfortunately totally irresponsible and probably reckless aspiration. There is not a chance in a million we'll be anything like ready to start on June 9th
The testing required isn't the only obstacle, absolutely formidable though that is, there's the logistics with around 300 people required to stage a match, the travelling to and from games. Repeat testing at regular intervals of every player and official, plus the fans would congregate outside any stadia unless there's a police presence to stop it, which still might not work.
Germany had their first case of Covid-19 a month before us and as Europe's economic powerhouse with a large pharma sector were strategically far better equipped to contain and limit any outbreak with huge testing capacity readily available. Their effort was hugely successful and are in a completely different scenario to us, we won't be able to contemplate that until at least two or three months after their May 9th start - considering the relative sizes of the outbreaks in each country and how densley populated the UK is.
If Germany is successful, and it's a big IF even there, then August could see us in a similar situation to take tentative steps forward.
All it takes to derail such a plan is one player to test positive in training, even leading up to the event, and the whole squad is in quarantine. Crammed schedules can't be completed by any club with say 25 players unavailable - massive unfairness or regular cancellations are an absolute certainty.
I don't envisage any date in the near future when football can return and curtailment of this season looks an odds on certainty with a formula, perhaps based on points per game, deciding positions.
I realise tv rights and money is at the root of these impossible apirations but which ever way you look on these plans, they are totally devoid from reality.
They have originally set out a wildly optimistic but unfortunately totally irresponsible and probably reckless aspiration. There is not a chance in a million we'll be anything like ready to start on June 9th
The testing required isn't the only obstacle, absolutely formidable though that is, there's the logistics with around 300 people required to stage a match, the travelling to and from games. Repeat testing at regular intervals of every player and official, plus the fans would congregate outside any stadia unless there's a police presence to stop it, which still might not work.
Germany had their first case of Covid-19 a month before us and as Europe's economic powerhouse with a large pharma sector were strategically far better equipped to contain and limit any outbreak with huge testing capacity readily available. Their effort was hugely successful and are in a completely different scenario to us, we won't be able to contemplate that until at least two or three months after their May 9th start - considering the relative sizes of the outbreaks in each country and how densley populated the UK is.
If Germany is successful, and it's a big IF even there, then August could see us in a similar situation to take tentative steps forward.
All it takes to derail such a plan is one player to test positive in training, even leading up to the event, and the whole squad is in quarantine. Crammed schedules can't be completed by any club with say 25 players unavailable - massive unfairness or regular cancellations are an absolute certainty.
I don't envisage any date in the near future when football can return and curtailment of this season looks an odds on certainty with a formula, perhaps based on points per game, deciding positions.
PaulPowersTash
Player Valuation: £15m
And when was the last time the match going fan was ever taken into consideration in the last 20 years?
They only need the fans to create the atmosphere for the game on TV. Or do they? We are about to find out.
For all PL clubs the match going fan is there to be monetised and nothing else.
Stupid kick off times. Matches rescheduled at the drop of a hat. Games on a Friday & Monday night when
opposition fans have a 8-10 hour round trip. The match going fan is nothing but an inconvenience to the clubs
these days and it's been that way since the PL & SKY invented the game in 1992.
Even if the whole squad isn't quarantined, it's not unrealistic to think that we could have a squad with a number of players or key staff who are ill or isolating.
I suspect they'll say 'well we have injuries anyway', but what if we had a situation where five or six key players or staff were ill? Would they be made to still play?
That's before we talk about how certain clubs will be disadvantaged by losing their home advantage, which we can all appreciate can easily play a part in a game.
@arminisgod there's a stark difference between actually being able to play behind closed doors and whether they should be that for safety or fairness.
arminisgod
Player Valuation: £35m
Football is to far gone from just being a sport or for fun, it's a huge part of our economy. Life isn't fair at the moment. people can't see their families etc.
The only reason i could see for footy not to start is because of the emergency services that would be needed, but now the NHS is under filled that doesn't stack up either.
shagpuss
Player Valuation: £8m
The Watford chairman seems too nice a bloke and talks too much sense to be involved in the senior echelons of football. No doubt the RS will be sending bullets in the post and planting something dodgy on his harddrive. That'll teach him to put humanity before Big Red's 19 Kidda La!!
arminisgod
Player Valuation: £35m
Why shouldn't it start? apart from the obvious fact we don't want Liverpool to win.
They reckon it would need 300 people for 1 game. Most medium to large business in this country will have more staff than that.
If schools re open then there is no reason for sport behind closed doors to take place. Whether we like it or not is a diff issue. If you don't like it... don't watch it
Are footballers key workers? If not, are they exempt from social distancing? You can't expect the general population to follow guidelines if other people don't.
Also, the service sector alone is a far larger contributor to the economy than football, but you don't see that anywhere nearly fully reopening any time soon.
I'm not bothered about Liverpool at all (if they get the title, so be it), but I really do not see the need for sporting events of any sort at this time being considered.
That's before discussing the fairness of the competition or the resources needed to run at least forty-six games week across England alone - Drs, medics, cops etc.
By the way, schools reopening are expected for a small number of key years groups (limited numbers), with distancing in place and some form of PPE. So...
PaulPowersTash
Player Valuation: £15m
Because we shouldn't prioritise sports events for Covid-19 tests above those of the NHS, Care Workers & essential workers.
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