Poor Subs

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Evertonized said:
Just wondered if everyone was a bit confused about Martinez this season.

Last year, he mastered substitutions, game in, game out! This season though is a completely different situation.

In at least four games I've seen, he's been very defensive or just plain right stupid with replacements coming on who do nothing or very little.

Has something changed, or has he just got a poor bench this season?
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Injuries are the main problem ?

Partly because players are coming back from injury and so aren't going to last 90 minutes and partly because injured players mean we're deeper into the squad than we were last season so there's not the same depth on the bench.

Agree with what someone said about Deulofeu though. Martinez would have quite happily thrown him on last season for half an hour whereas Atsu can't always even make the bench.
 

raib said:
Spurs had a plan to press us, and make our midfielders lose the ball. Other teams will work on this more.
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Other teams already have, pressing not just our MF but our back four when we're attempting to play from the back. RM is still no nearer to figuring out how we get round this and he won't until he gets all his MF players looking to receive the ball in space beyond the opposition forwards doing the pressing.
 
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Poor team selection imo -RM should have played the same team versus Wolfs berg with Osman in for Barry, and Coleman in for Hibbert - Mcgeedy in for Eto would have been a nice balanced team with two wingers - Baines, and Barry should have been on the bench as neither looked 100% fit!
that would have let Barkley play central midfield with an outlet of two wingers to support two full backs - also RM should have let Spurs attack us more to catch them on the break instead of the other way round!
 
Joey66 said:
Poor team selection imo -RM should have played the same team versus Wolfs berg with Osman in for Barry, and Coleman in for Hibbert - Mcgeedy in for Eto would have been a nice balanced team with two wingers - Baines, and Barry should have been on the bench as neither looked 100% fit!
that would have let Barkley play central midfield with an outlet of two wingers to support two full backs - also RM should have let Spurs attack us more to catch them on the break instead of the other way round!
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I'm not exactly sure on this but I think we are more successful this season when Hibbert is in for Coleman bizarrely enough. I'm sure some one has the numbers out there?
 

He got the team very wrong yesterday. Barkley at RM was disastrous, we had McGeady on the bench, why not start him? Martinez is very weird when it comes to McGeady, he plays him when he shouldn't and doesn't play him when he does!
 
Last season we suprised people with martinez and his philosophy, in previous seasons it was more compact and solid style. Substitutes seemed to fit in with little effort, playing with quick pace.

This season we have been figured out, teams sit back and watch us pass along the back line, into midfield and back to the back line, they then hit us with a goal and sit back again forcing us to play a little more open and leave gaps. The substitutes have been baffling at times, especially taking off Eto'o and mirallas for osman and mcgeady. There was no balance to the team.

I also dont buy into the whole europa rotation thing, especially when he rests players for the league but makes mccarthy play every game possible with a hamstring pull.

Squad roatation and substitutes are primarily there for resting players with knocks, not being nice to everyone by giving them game times.

Always go with your BEST ELEVEN that is FIT TO PLAY.
 

Joey66 said:
I doubt it as Coleman scores goals - needs a winger to support him imagine Hibbo with no cover?
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Coleman is a million billion thrillion cadiddlyillion times better than Tony but I think our success rate is better with Hibbert this season.
 
........hindsight is wonderful but it's fair to say that quite a few on here were concerned about the balance of the team when it was announced. From a substitute perspective RM tried to address that by taking Eto'o off. The natural replacement was McGeady, thus pushing Barkley central but I presume the Mirallas withdrawal wasn't tactical.

Pienaar ahead of Baines is preferable but perhaps RM felt Osman could cope more with Spurs high energy game at this stage of Pienaars recovery. Pity Atsu hasn't had more of an impact as the situation might've been made for somebody like that.
 
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Have people not been watching McGeady's body of work this season?

Surely taking Eto'o off, leaving Mirallas on and putting Pienaar on the left with Barkley in the middle was the balance we needed.

Look, on Sunday we were mega tosh. It happens.
 
We were unbalanced, so the subs needed to bring balance to the team, the subs he made kept it unbalanced. His subs this season have been mind boggling at times.
 

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