6 + 2 Point Deductions

[Blue83]

What we don't know here though is what are their allowable addbacks?

I guess they would be taken from "other expenses" but no idea what and how much, still even if PL were to be generous it would surely be close to bringing them over the £105 loss for 3 seasons

 

[Toffeepot]

It never had anything to do with sustainability, only profit, and those that make most profit for the league have a perma-golden ticket

 

[Rooney_Tunes]

It doesn't matter how much effort you put into looking at the accounts they will spin it that the big clubs have done nothing wrong.

It will be similar to how they use VAR.

 

[Gilbert..]

Chelsea's are worse

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Supposedly £30mil profit in 2020

But £30 + -144 + -145 is nowhere close to being £105 over those 3 seasons

Masters comments on chelsea yest were unbelievable compared to Evertons and forests..it was well they deserve it.

Chelseas were...erm well it was the previous owners. We are looking into it.

 

[Rooney_Tunes]

Masters comments on chelsea yest were unbelievable compared to Evertons and forests..it was well they deserve it.

Chelseas were...erm well it was the previous owners. We are looking into it.

Big club little clubs.

 

[GP_Monty]

Majority of the media coverage is just kopites wanting City punished, they couldn’t give one about Forest or Everton.

The PSR was an absolute genius piece of legislation by the big clubs. ‘Sell your players to us for whatever price we choose within a certain time limit or points deductions come your way, meanwhile we can buy whoever we want with no limits whatsoever’. It’s absolutely genius but has completely screwed football more than it already was.

"No limits whatsoever" is nonsense though isn't it. Arsenal and Man United both need a striker but can't afford to buy one because they're already scraping the ceiling of FFP, Spurs took Werner on loan for the same reason.

 

[kenada_blue]

Also not very sustainable.. sustainable means you can go as you are indefinitely, I wouldn't see wolves last too long in the football league let alone the PL if they keep selling their best preforming players, all it would take is for a few the cheaper players you've replaced your best with to be duds and you are in free fall.. I don't get the point of this article lick arsearry

It's the timing of the headline.

"Look here's other clubs that are sticking to the rules unlike these two"

 

[Billy Dean]

Was Bill involved at any time during the FFP financial reporting and submission process? Surely he wasn't of sound mind and we could use that in our mitigation. His head swole up the size of a Halloween pumpkin so obviously that will have impacted his ability to cognitively function properly.

You only have to see those texts he sent to Iwobi to see that he wasn't of sound mind. The first of those was dated May 2022, so at least since then he wasn't of sound mind, but probably before too

 

[Wat Tyler]

I'm not going to claim to be fantastic at math but it looks like United have made substantial losses over the 3 years to 2022 , and not a word about it.
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Can someone who understands all this explain how they’re not in breach?

 

[WestStandLower]

Should be one of the main arguments at the appeal..... Any pre planning costs should have been allowed to be written off and back dated against P&S once the stadium became probable.. If they keep these rules in place nobody will be able to build a new stadium ever again, 40 million spent before planning counting against P&S is a joke and double the 19.5 we were punished over.

You were offered that but had to come in below the £105 million ceiling after deducting these costs and despite assurances you didnt so those costs couldn’t de deducted

 

[mahermi1]

Possibly because Richard Masters believes they are not a small club or one of the sly 6..

 

[Toffeelover]

Looks like we are stuck either way, selling our best players will not help this season except to spur on relegation, they would only count for next season.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

"No limits whatsoever" is nonsense though isn't it. Arsenal and Man United both need a striker but can't afford to buy one because they're already scraping the ceiling of FFP, Spurs took Werner on loan for the same reason.

Behave man !

Utd:

Antony: £90m
Sancho: £75m
Haaland lite: £60m
Fernandes: £65m
Maguire: £85m
Casemeiro: £60m
Varane: £40m
Martinez: £47m
Onana: £47m

Just some of the deals they've recently paid over the last 3-5 years and there are plenty others including paying Ronaldo 500k+ a week and so on.

 

[GP_Monty]

Behave man !

Utd:

Antony: £90m
Sancho: £75m
Haaland lite: £60m
Fernandes: £65m
Maguire: £85m
Casemeiro: £60m
Varane: £40m
Martinez: £47m
Onana: £47m

Just some of the deals they've recently paid over the last 3-5 years and there are plenty others including paying Ronaldo 500k+ a week and so on.

Correct, over the last 5 years. They're knackered for FFP this season as it stands unless they sell someone so it's not exactly unlimited is it.

 

[mahermi1]

Correct, over the last 5 years. They're knackered for FFP this season as it stands unless they sell someone so it's not exactly unlimited is it.

If we would have spent half that we would have had much more than a points deduction, they would have just executed us. Look at the size of their squads and their wage bills. Financial Fair play you say Sir...