They warned us every time to make sure we comply with the P&S rules.
6 + 2 Point Deductions
- Thread starter GrandOldTeam
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They warned us every time to make sure we comply with the P&S rules.
Dublin blue 75
Player Valuation: £40m
Tosun, Sandro, Schneiderlin… the list is long
Blueclouds
Player Valuation: £35m
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What is the point of this, most clubs have signed dross
From Eric Myles;
In article 133 of the report the commission refer to the PL relying on a precedent from a lower league, Sheffield Wednesday vs. EFL.
In that case then our appeal should be based on the precedent set in the same league, that of Leicester and their £3.1 million "fine" which was a negotiated settlement after Leicester threatened to go to court on the grounds that the PSR was illegal.
They can't turn round and say the lower court / league Leicester ruling doesn't apply as they have already relied on the Sheffield Wednesday one.
Also, as Lyndon points out the Tevez West Ham affair where they were found to have had a sporting advantage but only had to pay a fine, not points deductions for a deliberate sporting advantage.
I would hope that our team would focus on these precedents when arguing that the punishment is excessive.
degsy;
Yes its a total hatchet job, but we put our own head on the block as we were bang to rights Guilty.
All we can do is argue poor precedent and excessive punishment.
As to being sued;
Yes the sad barstewards can apply...any body can 'apply' - but that doesn't mean it will necessarily succeed
In article 133 of the report the commission refer to the PL relying on a precedent from a lower league, Sheffield Wednesday vs. EFL.
In that case then our appeal should be based on the precedent set in the same league, that of Leicester and their £3.1 million "fine" which was a negotiated settlement after Leicester threatened to go to court on the grounds that the PSR was illegal.
They can't turn round and say the lower court / league Leicester ruling doesn't apply as they have already relied on the Sheffield Wednesday one.
Also, as Lyndon points out the Tevez West Ham affair where they were found to have had a sporting advantage but only had to pay a fine, not points deductions for a deliberate sporting advantage.
I would hope that our team would focus on these precedents when arguing that the punishment is excessive.
degsy;
Yes its a total hatchet job, but we put our own head on the block as we were bang to rights Guilty.
All we can do is argue poor precedent and excessive punishment.
As to being sued;
Yes the sad barstewards can apply...any body can 'apply' - but that doesn't mean it will necessarily succeed
Look to the future
Player Valuation: £1.5m
This.
Even if we upset the PL and avoid the complete financial ruin of relegation we still end up losing out more financially than scab 6 payed out in fines for trying to ruin football.
Corrupt PL.
kiss the crest
Player Valuation: £35m
Them players along with Gbamin and Bolasie £114 mil with nothing in return
All comes down us being nice little old honest Everton again.
Drico
Player Valuation: £50m
And the reason they were able to quantify the "sporting advantage"? Tevez - who was signed illegally - scored the only goal of the game on the last day of the season that relegated Sheffield United.
They can't even quantify ours. And why would they when we've spent six years searching for it and come up empty-handed.
BlueShark
Player Valuation: £15m
Ian Byrne MP raising the issue in Parliament this morning.
Don't know if it'll help us, but good for him.
www.bbc.co.uk
Don't know if it'll help us, but good for him.
Everton points deduction taken to Parliament by MP
Everton's 10-point deduction by the Premier League will be taken to Parliament after Liverpool MP Ian Byrne calls the punishment "grossly unfair".
www.bbc.co.uk
Davideeyore
Player Valuation: £20m
Ignoring all the "noise" - It could be argued that this breach is a technicality. And yet the punishment is quite close to being as severe as you can get when you compare to say administration.
There are so many drivers. As you said we've worked with the PL. We've admitted we breached. We've provided mitigating factors. Which by and large have been dismissed.
The no sporting gain versus sporting punishment is baffling. I've heard it suggested that we had sporting advantage by the very fact that we spent more than allowed (and broke the rules) but this was seen as accidental. So we didn't seek to gain sporting advantage. (This is more to do with the incompetent flakey running of the club). Bearing that in mind the punishment metered out - points deduction opposed to say a fine - based on first a hastily drawn up tarrif by the PL in August, and, that a fine would not be suitable given we have a wealthy owner. As pointed out in here actually, 10 points deduction on its own is a double punishment (fine) because our final table placing would (most likely!) be lower as a result therefore loss of prize money. *Maybe even the loss of European qualification.
And as we all know the breakaway 6's punishment was deemed a fine and not a points deduction. Er, do they not all have wealthy owners too? Why were they not given points deductions? "You can't punish the fans"..
This is just a can of worms. I hope Everton's legal team are better clued up in the appeal than they were for the hearing.
I genuinely don’t care if the best players leave the league and the viewing figures and quality drops. I just want a competitive sport to enjoy again. Would love the super league to happen.
ToffeeScot
Player Valuation: £1.5m
I have a gut feeling we will still have points deducted but it will get reduced to 6.
brieverton
Player Valuation: £40m
It's still quite surreal. I forget about it briefly when I wake up in the morning, and it seems it didn't happen. And then it's there. 10 POINTS. Wow. Even when it seemed it was inevitable we would face a deduction, I never thought it would be this. Just never thought I'd see the day.
