Planning For Next Season Now

wandyr79 · March 27, 2015

ianefc said:
How many Evertonians trust Martinez in the Transfer Market?

Sunderland of the North-West tag.

Here we come.

Has beens FC

Tough to tell.

Besic, Lukaku, McCarthy, Stones (I am putting him as he saw the talent before he came to us and would have signed him if it weren't for us) have all been great.

A couple of others have shown glimpses and a couple of flops.

We will probably need to go back to the Moyes way this summer, cheap with potential and/or cheap decent squad players and get a good team spirit.

We also have a few good youngsters which may push the heat off needing to get a lot of players in to replace the deadwood.

ianefc · March 27, 2015

wandyr79 said:
Tough to tell.

Besic, Lukaku, McCarthy, Stones (I am putting him as he saw the talent before he came to us and would have signed him if it weren't for us) have all been great.

A couple of others have shown glimpses and a couple of flops.

We will probably need to go back to the Moyes way this summer, cheap with potential and/or cheap decent squad players and get a good team spirit.

We also have a few good youngsters which may push the heat off needing to get a lot of players in to replace the deadwood.

Besic hasn't proved a thing, not one thing. Lukaku has done well but against the top teams (PL Teams not EL fodder) he is bang average, no one on here would comment if Crouch had done well by scoring 10 PL goals after 30 Games. He is not having Stones and MaCarthy is his one real success story. Barry would have been if he had of got him on a 1 year roiling deal. He will sign us a load of crap, liken lennon, alcaraz, Mcgeady, Cleverly and Robles

sageyefc · March 27, 2015

ianefc said:
Besic hasn't proved a thing, not one thing. Lukaku has done well but against the top teams (PL Teams not EL fodder) he is bang average, no one on here would comment if Crouch had done well by scoring 10 PL goals after 30 Games. He is not having Stones and MaCarthy is his one real success story. Barry would have been if he had of got him on a 1 year roiling deal. He will sign us a load of crap, liken lennon, alcaraz, Mcgeady, Cleverly and Robles

Arent you a ray of sunshine

ianefc · March 27, 2015

sageyefc said:
Arent you a ray of sunshine

Ok mate, lets make like of everything and turn everything positive for @sageyefc

.......Or does the truth hurt

wandyr79 · March 27, 2015

ianefc said:
Besic hasn't proved a thing, not one thing. Lukaku has done well but against the top teams (PL Teams not EL fodder) he is bang average, no one on here would comment if Crouch had done well by scoring 10 PL goals after 30 Games. He is not having Stones and MaCarthy is his one real success story. Barry would have been if he had of got him on a 1 year roiling deal. He will sign us a load of crap, liken lennon, alcaraz, Mcgeady, Cleverly and Robles

Besic has looked good to me and will get better but I guess it is all about opinions.

Even when he playing awful Lukaku has scored goals. Crouch is proven, Lukaku is 21 and learning the game. It is good that he is banging them against any team, in 2/3 years he will have learnt enough to be judged fully as to where he is going to be and we could easily be looking at a superb signing.

He may not 'have' Stones but my inclusion was that he spotted the talent and went for it so when we are considering what he might do this summer the relevance is there.

Robles showed massive improvement in the short period he was number 1 so will hold judgement until a longer run of games if it comes about.

Can't lump Lennon in there after he was man of the match in one game and scored in the next, for me he has looked good and fitting in nicely so for me a decent signing so far, we will see if he continues if he does sign.

Or we can just look at every single player and say they are all crap.

Tennessee Blue Mike · March 27, 2015

Besic needs to tone down angry. He has some silky skills but I believe Barry is rubbing off on him at the moment. Lennon has done more in a two game stint than others I won't mention in half a season.

ianefc · March 27, 2015

wandyr79 said:
Besic has looked good to me and will get better but I guess it is all about opinions.

Even when he playing awful Lukaku has scored goals. Crouch is proven, Lukaku is 21 and learning the game. It is good that he is banging them against any team, in 2/3 years he will have learnt enough to be judged fully as to where he is going to be and we could easily be looking at a superb signing.

He may not 'have' Stones but my inclusion was that he spotted the talent and went for it so when we are considering what he might do this summer the relevance is there.

Robles showed massive improvement in the short period he was number 1 so will hold judgement until a longer run of games if it comes about.

Can't lump Lennon in there after he was man of the match in one game and scored in the next, for me he has looked good and fitting in nicely so for me a decent signing so far, we will see if he continues if he does sign.

Or we can just look at every single player and say they are all crap.

Simple fact is he is a second rate manager who will sign second rate crap and get us no where, like previous sunderland managers who mus have thought to themselves 'you know what, Man Utd are a good team even their lesser players will be good so lets buy some of them' and that's where we are ending up under this clown.

Although I do understand people are proper buzzing at the moment because we have won back to back PL games against 2 of the most in form teams in the league and by in form I mean they are consistent and by consistent I mean they are consistently crap at this time of year.

Time will tell

Goat · March 27, 2015

TIL theres still people who cant see the amount of talent Besic has.

I think we should get a manager who can actually spot it as well.

wandyr79 · March 27, 2015

ianefc said:
Simple fact is he is a second rate manager who will sign second rate crap and get us no where, like previous sunderland managers who mus have thought to themselves 'you know what, Man Utd are a good team even their lesser players will be good so lets buy some of them' and that's where we are ending up under this clown.

Although I do understand people are proper buzzing at the moment because we have won back to back PL games against 2 of the most in form teams in the league and by in form I mean they are consistent and by consistent I mean they are consistently crap at this time of year.

Time will tell

OK, looking for positives and analysing players performance in relation to the question that was put forward means that fans are buzzing?

I am personally not buzzing, I am a little bit happier than I was but surely you are too, unless you are disappointed that we have won 2 games on the trot.

I see enough positives in the players that have been mentioned to see some light at the end of the very dark tunnel, this season has been confidence draining and there is a long way to go to get the confidence back in the manager and players but there is always light.

ianefc · March 27, 2015

wandyr79 said:
OK, looking for positives and analysing players performance in relation to the question that was put forward means that fans are buzzing?

I am personally not buzzing, I am a little bit happier than I was but surely you are too, unless you are disappointed that we have won 2 games on the trot.

I see enough positives in the players that have been mentioned to see some light at the end of the very dark tunnel, this season has been confidence draining and there is a long way to go to get the confidence back in the manager and players but there is always light.

No positives at the moment mate not at all, if we could have hand picked 2 games it would have been from a pool of Newcastle, QPR or Sunderland at the moment. lets see how we get on V Southampton and Swansea.