Plane Crash at San Francisco International

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SingBlue said:
Plane landed short apparently, hit the sea wall.
Personally this is an airline on my do-not-fly list.

Edit: some links
http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/518568-asiana-flight-crash-san-francisco.html
http://metabunk.org/threads/hl7742-aar214-777-crash-korean-asiana-airlines-san-francisco.1956/

The latter includes an mp3 of the ATC where the Asiana pilot states "We have a problem" 20 seconds after the crash!
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First of all RIP to those poor people who lost their lives who were quite possibly going to the States for a holiday of a lifetime.

Why is it on your do-not-fly list? I've flown Asiana literally dozens of times and they have always been boss.

It could well be another Boeing 777 incident. Let's not point any fingers until the facts have come in.
 
teppic said:
First of all RIP to those poor people who lost their lives who were quite possibly going to the States for a holiday of a lifetime.

Why is it on your do-not-fly list? I've flown Asiana literally dozens of times and they have always been boss.

It could well be another Boeing 777 incident. Let's not point any fingers until the facts have come in.
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Lived in Asia for a few years, knew someone who works there, not impressed with some of their practices when it comes to maintaining their a/c and training their engineers. They're not nearly as bad as almost any airline in Indonesia you care to mention, and for a while the EU agreed!

I don't fly Ryanair either, but for entirely different reasons. Just personal choice borne out of professional prejudice if you like!
 
Where is the Indonesia reference from?

KLM are boss at canceling planes and Air France have lost my baggage twice!
 

teppic said:
Where is the Indonesia reference from?

KLM are boss at canceling planes and Air France have lost my baggage twice!
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Just partly related to my job whilst I was in Asia.

Air France are horrible. Second only to Alitalia (old version) for worst flag carrier in Europe. I was gutted when they bought KLM as I thought they'd drag them down, but on my last trip with KLM they hadn't been Air-Franced.

(PS all of this is totally subjective. Bit like me thinking Ian Wilson wasn't the worst player we ever had)
 
Yes each time my KLM flight was cancelled it was because the plane went instead to Paris under the flag of Air France as it had more passengers booked. Even though I had reservations made 3 months prior!

Air France = horrible.
KLM = weak.
 

teppic said:
Where is the Indonesia reference from?

KLM are boss at canceling planes and Air France have lost my baggage twice!
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Garuda (the national airline) and a few others were banned from flying into European airspace due to their very dodgy safety record. I believe they are much better now, Garuda have a fleet of new planes and are premitted back into Europe.

And if there is a worse airline than KLM, then they must be bad. I flew with them to Europe and back, on the return leg it was the captains last flight so the tradition is that he gets to hand pick the best crew. Started off by being told to move seats 3 times. Rude, ignorant, arrogant and everything is a hassle. And they were the captains pick. Had a one year old sitting on our lap - stewardess stormed off in a huff when I suggested it may be better if I could have my meal after I had fed my child, that way my wife could eat first then have child on her lap while I ate.

Next leg was on Malaysia air - at meal time the stewardesses suggested that they take the child and feed it so me and my wife could have our meal in peace.
 
Elong said:
"You filmed it all!" Stupid bint in the background.
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There's something quite gruesome about carrying on filming when you know something really quite **** is taking place imo.

Not on the same level, obviously, but it was the same at Wimbledon yesterday. Murray had just won and was going wild and a guy in the crowd was doing likewise, and it was like he'd forgotten himself as he had to suddenly whip out his camera in mid cheer to 'capture' the moment, like his eyes weren't doing a good enough job.

Fecking social media.
 
Bruce Wayne said:
There's something quite gruesome about carrying on filming when you know something really quite **** is taking place imo.

Not on the same level, obviously, but it was the same at Wimbledon yesterday. Murray had just won and was going wild and a guy in the crowd was doing likewise, and it was like he'd forgotten himself as he had to suddenly whip out his camera in mid cheer to 'capture' the moment, like his eyes weren't doing a good enough job.

Fecking social media.
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Don't mind if it's beyond your control, too far away to help etc, your footage may prove invaluable to helping solve what caused the crash, but to try and get your 5 mins of fame from it, yeah that sucks.
 
Aye, maybe. For me I reckon it'd be instinctive to put the camera down and look with my own two eyes. Can't really understand the folks who were stood filming the Rigby murder for instance.
 
Bruce Wayne said:
Aye, maybe. For me I reckon it'd be instinctive to put the camera down and look with my own two eyes. Can't really understand the folks who were stood filming the Rigby murder for instance.
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That does baffle me. That and everybody who just walked on by. Couldn't believe it. I mean, I remember London being pretty "keep to yourself", but that really took the biscuit.
 

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