Pienaar

Goat · July 21, 2012

Jesus Christ, its like fish have sucked out peoples eyes.

stevietoffee · July 21, 2012

MoutsGoat said:
Next person who says Pienaar was better than Arteta is GETTING IT.

i would say he is , if arteta came back last season on loan i could not have seen him making such an impact as pienaar did . arteta has not looked the same player since his injury even for arsenal

Phil Neville Superstar · July 21, 2012

I'd say Pienaar makes a bigger difference to us than Arteta did for his last 12 months or so, but Arteta at his best (around the time of Donovan's first loan in my opinion - Chelsea 2-1, United 3-1, City away 2-0 etc.) was superior.

stevietoffee · July 21, 2012

i am going on arteta after his injury by the way

RFUS · July 21, 2012

bluejock said:
For those of us who weren't old enough/born for the best of the '80's, Mikel Arteta in his prime is the best we've seen. No one even comes close.

Well yeah I've only witnessed Everton from the 90s onwards, but nonetheless out of all the players I've seen put on the royal blue he -- at his best -- stands head and shoulders above the others. In terms of sheer technical quality anyway.

But I think if Fellaini stays for another few seasons and continues to improve as he has been I'll have to adjust that opinion.

Goat · July 21, 2012

Arteta and Fellaini are different players though, in fairness.

bainesontoast · July 21, 2012

If you're talking in terms of their entire career, Arteta is better. In terms of as recently as last season, Pienaar is better. Basically, i'd rather have Arteta at his prime than Pienaar at his. Watch our 2006/07 season in full if you don't share this opinion.

TippEverton · July 21, 2012

Arteta > Pienaar

RFUS · July 21, 2012

MoutsGoat said:
Arteta and Fellaini are different players though, in fairness.

Yes but Pienaar's different too.

I'm just thinking about technical ability in relation to their peers. It's not an exact science, just my opinion really.

chicoazul · July 21, 2012

bluejock said:
For those of us who weren't old enough/born for the best of the '80's, Mikel Arteta in his prime is the best we've seen. No one even comes close.

Andrei by a long chalk man.

BigDunc'sFod · July 21, 2012

Moutinho > Arteta

BigDunc'sFod · July 21, 2012

chicoazul said:
Andrei by a long chalk man.

Actually, you're right on the money.

I still don't understand how we managed to sign Kanchelskis.

Happy Nick · July 21, 2012

Arteta in his first two seasons with us, out on the wing, yes, out on the wing, well he just used to walk past people effortlessly. He either beat his man or got fouled. Pienaar does for our team everything we hoped Arteta would by playing in the middle of the park, namely play a passing game.

Deleted member 28206 · July 21, 2012

Just my personal opinion, arterta was too inconsistent, i think for about 18 months he played to his potential, his set pieces where awful, his corners in particular.