Part of me wants to keep it in house...

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just watching rhino's interview ! and made me think ! if we got 100 million dont want him to spend it as he has no experience ! but if martinez had of gone 10 games ago ! we could of actually seen what unsy, ebbrell & ferguson could do ! not including royal as think it should be the younger fellas ! all great blues ! and you'd hope they would make the team put the effort in ! one thing martinez said after sunderland and other times ya cant question the commitment and effort ! but ya could ! we want more and think the boys what of got it out of them !
 
just watching rhino's interview ! and made me think ! if we got 100 million dont want him to spend it as he has no experience ! but if martinez had of gone 10 games ago ! we could of actually seen what unsy, ebbrell & ferguson could do ! not including royal as think it should be the younger fellas ! all great blues ! and you'd hope they would make the team put the effort in ! one thing martinez said after sunderland and other times ya cant question the commitment and effort ! but ya could ! we want more and think the boys what of got it out of them !


agree dringo...we might've been facing a cup final
 
You only have to listen to what those 'in-house' are saying to realize that there is a bad funk about (minus a couple of exceptions).
They are absolutely happy to thread water.
What is needed is someone to come in and blow the cobwebs off.

That's what I believe a sporting director coming in with a manager is a great idea in this instance.
 


With all my heart no!!! Need to aim big

Just wonder if , after the summer starts to come to an end and all the big targets stay where they are or move elsewhere, that everton will start to look at lower level foreign managers that will never understand what it means to manage us.
 
I wonder if this is partly what the DOF appointment is looking at? Getting a strong structure in place. I remember people laughing at me when I said we could keep it in house after Moyes. However if we would have kept that infrastructure and possibly moved the guys working with the younger players to the first team to bring them through I genuinely believe we would be in a better position than we are now. That was made very difficult as Moyes took a lot with him, including Round, Neville & Woods who played a big part.

There is no doubt Moyes built a fantastic structure of scouts, analysts, fitness coaches, academy coaches. The criticism would be at the end of the day he didn't use those players enough when they became older at the end of his regime and I think he probably took for granted what he had here as much as the fans.

However while it pains me to say it I just don't think that's right now. I see that training session, and you see Fergusan, Ebbrell, Unsworth and Royle all involved and it brings a smile to my face. You can just see how happy they are. Beyond anything I really saw from Moyes or Martinez. I do think at the moment though we do need a really big name manager in. I think it's a shame we didn't take the brave decision and sack Martinez earlier. Had we have given those lads 6 or 8 games you never know what might have happened.

The only way I could see it working would be to go back to the original point, that we are getting a DOF in. If you got someone like say Joachim Loew who was the face of the club to agents and players and had his expertise on recruitment of players and look for him to implement the changes he did within the German federation to Everton it might work? I maintain our academy remains very strong but could always go in a different direction.

I don't care what anyone says though, after the Arsenal game the brave decision would have been to relieve him. We would not have been humiliated at the derby with Unsworth in charge. Ebbrell/Sheedy & Fergusan are respected as good coaches and Royle is a wily old head. Osman and Hibbert could easily part retire and take over some of the youth coaching. Long term I'd like to see us try to go that with, a top a top DOF like Loew who could deal with the transfers side of things but at present I do think we need a big name manager too.

I like it. big broad strokes of new direction thinking...make it so.

you can have all the skill in the world but if you're blowing for tugs after 60mins, well you're a waste of a place in real terms...and no I don't want a team of blokes with good engines only...that will only make a good player a bit better.

like it or not a game goes for nearly 100 mins now so train for 100 + 30 extra time
train hard fight easy.
tired bodies lead to tired minds and decisions.

P,P,P,PP,P.
 
I felt a bit like that after watching the press conference, he knows what everton is all about as do the others. Whoever comes in I hope that Rhino and Joe Royle can at minimum keep their positions, although i'd quite like to Rhino as assistant manager
 
It's deffo romantic: especially with Unsworth glowing about how Everton is the only club he'd love to manage, and how "massive Evertonians" like Dunc, Royle and Ebbrell are involved:




But on the other hand he first says "win, lose or draw it's just important we get a performance from the players". Then later he says "a win is an absolute must to send the fans out on a high".

He's also got only superlative words for Martinez, no hint that there might've been some unrest. And he's honoring Roberto's wish that Howard gets game-time just so he receives a 'special send-off for his fantastic services' to the club.


I really like Rhino, and would love for Evertonians to manage & coach our club, but I'm not sure if he'll have the temperament to really push us on to where we wanna be.

When I'm DOF that will be the plan.

The likes of Unsworth, Stubbs etc would start with our youth teams before going out into league football. They'd then be able to choose players from our U21 to take on loan.

Managers that did well would then be appointed when our first team coach left.

Don't know what it is, just not feeling the vibe for wanting Stubbs any where near the Club.

One thing about Unsworth during his spells at WHU & Villa, he realised it wasn't working / listened to advice that it wasn't (which ever or both) and changed it...which is more than some do...or did, eh Roberto.
 

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