Next Everton Manager

[technojoe]

Someone should write a letter tot he chairman like young Matthew and say how rubbish the last while has been and that we need to sort it out! That's what young Matthew would say I reckon.

 

[matty1878]

But it's underestimating how shockingly bad Koeman has left this club. £150mill spent and it'll need about that to rebuild.

Again, our position and performances are alarming. The squad is poor. I'm not sold on Dyche (a man who's spent 5 years including relegation to build a club) or that we'd honestly get Tuchel who inherited a very good team at Dortmund.

We have to just hold our hand up and say the club is in crisis from what I've seen on the pitch. And we need someone who can deal with that before we think "long term"

Get solid. Make steps.

Sorry mate but allardayce or anyone is r the answer and gives us no long term stability and more finance needed.

Get who we want in now and that's that

 

[brieverton]

Paolo Fonseca at Shakhtar seems to be an interesting option. They have every chance of getting out of a very difficult UCL group.

We seemed to be linked a while back, and he would be a good deal more realistic than Tuchel.

Nor would they have appointed him lightly based on how revered Mircea Lucescu was there after 12 years.

Who knows how he would do and a risk regardless but at least the unknown element would offer some degree of excitement, unlike what looks to a steady-eddie but dull and grey Sean Dyche.

 

[The Mighty Pablos]

Lads... A guy just found Matthew Mills passport outside of Tony's Bar at place Bellecour, opposite of the la poste... Please post, tweet and whatever else for Matt, Cheers!

 

[Ron Swanson]

Im gobsmacked that 409 people voted Unsworth. Unbelievable

fixed.

 

[Blue toffee]

I don’t like the thought of Allardyce on bit but I’m struggling to see who these players will play for. They wouldn’t turn up for Martinez, they wouldn’t play for Koeman, they’re seemingly not performing for Unsworth, we’ve tried a hands off philosophy, authoritarian discipline, and ‘just go and enjoy it lads’. These clowns won’t respond to any of it. If Allardyce needs to tell them using 200 screens which position on the pitch to stand in to mark them all not be so utterly turd then I’m all for it.

Under no circumstances do I want Allardyce anywhere near this club. But your absolutely right about this group of players. It's been a reoccurring theme for a while, including pre Koeman. The minute things go wrong they down tools. No fight, - for themselves, each other or God forbid the fans. No leadership, no (hate the phrase) game management. Maybe it's the same for all clubs when they hit a downturn, but it happens here far to frequently. The board has changed, managers changed, some players have changed, approaches/philosophy's changed but there's still this comfortable, I'm ok, can't be bothered malaise that appears to hang over the entire squad no matter how the deckchairs are arranged. So there's a nice a job for someone to sort out. Oh, nearly forgot, stop getting beat too.

 

[Toast]

Not true - when word leaked they were in the final parts of negotiation, they went odds-on.

Correct.
A few on here got the heads up on Martinez and I got on at a very handy price.
Oddly, I also got on Koeman early, cos of Esk and make good money. ( also backed Emery as Esk said that was also on like ).
That being said, I took a price on Dyche very early on this time.. and I will gladly lose my money if it's neither him or Alladyce.

 

[Blues Harp]

I think he is what he is: a geeky accountant who squirrelled away Usmanov's cash and got a pat on the head for it.

The feller looks clueless in the real world...more especially the football industry.

We needed a big name CEO from the off to get us past the mistakes a man like Moshiri would inevitably make. The fact that he didn't employ one and stayed with the clowns we already had tells you all you need to know about that feller's ambitions.

I dont think that its the case that he lacks ambition, but I think you are spot on with your last sentence regarding staying with elstone, etc....dont think he knows much about football and I agree with you on this point.

 

[trueblue10]

All that's required is a decent win; something for us to hold onto and build on. And whoever is appointed the players will know it's at least medium term and theres someone they need to impress. We'll get a boost from that and from a new boss picking a consistent team...and also Barkley featuring again.

There's just no need for the nuclear option of Allardyce.

It wont be either. I'm convinced of that.

The way the confidence is at the moment, we are miles away from a decent win. A decent draw doesn't look possible the way we are performing.

Ross is a good player but we need more than Ross at the moment, he cant turn this around on his own.

 

[catcherintherye]

Heres a list of the people who hired/tried to Allardyce, just think it makes curious reading

Man City - offered Allardyce the job (Lee, Bernstein and Wardle) - it was withdrawn though as the club was sold just before his appointment could be confirmed to Shinawatra

Hired by Newcastle (Sir John Hall) - Mike Ashley took over 16 days later after buying out Hall.

Hired by Blackburn - club was sold to the Venky family 2 years later (club was already up for sale when he took over btw)

West Ham - hired by Gold and Sullivan a year after their takeover - strong rumours they are gonna sell if they can get a buyer

Sunderland - Hired by Ellis Short - club was put up for sale effectively during the same season he was hired.

England - Hired by the FA - who are currently under a lot of scrutiny for corrupt practices

Crystal Palace - Hired by Steve Parish last year and who has recently denied rumours he is trying to sell the club - although evidence mounts he is trying to do so

If Moshiri adds his name to that list - then i think we can all pretty much assume what he is and what his intentions are for this club


Allardyce is hired by owners who are getting ready to sell their club in order to temporarily keep the price up - none of the ones hiring cared about the long term future for the club - but all about protecting short term the share price, West Ham btw where when they hired Allardyce in the negotiation process about obtaining the London Stadium - so short term survival in the league was of paramount importance over any long term strategy

I think all of those points are very worthwhile. There's every chance Moshiri may look to move us on again, though given the way the stadium is going in many ways that's the least of my worries, I sense it might well be to Usmanov or one-off his people. I see it more as a Sinwatra move than a Venkys one, we are a better prospect than Blackburn.

I also think the process is more straightforward though. I suspect Moshiri knows the calibre of names linked are good long term. We can get a far better deal in the summer (presuming we survive) so it makes sense to have a caretaker. They must have hoped Unsworth could see the season out but that looks doubtable. In that context Allardyce looks a sensible ploy.

The one spanner in the works is Allardyce and the sense of pathos merged with the huge ego that he has. He has a massive chip on his shoulder, and has always felt it's some anti English conspiracy that's prevented him getting a top job. The idea he readily accepts 6 months to let another foreigner build on his good work will not go down well. He's been egged on by his mates Keys (and shamefully) Grey who's happy to sell his own club down the river to play out their own victimhood, that English blokes just can't get a fair deal in football.

That's the thinking I see here. The pause I see from them is rabbit in te headlights panic at not knowing what to do, and finding each option equally but differently damaging.

 

[davids]

Unsworth did just that for an hour last night and it worked. It's actually not that difficult, the skill is blending that with having an attacking threat.

Are you honestly suggesting that keeping a clean sheet for an hour then conceding three can be described as "working"?

 

[jayonenote]

Paolo Fonseca at Shakhtar seems to be an interesting option. They have every chance of getting out of a very difficult UCL group.

We seemed to be linked a while back, and he would be a good deal more realistic than Tuchel.

Nor would they have appointed him lightly based on how revered Mircea Lucescu was there after 12 years.

Who knows how he would do and a risk regardless but at least the unknown element would offer some degree of excitement, unlike what looks to a steady-eddie but dull and grey Sean Dyche.

Yes they are playing very well

 

[Blues Harp]

When did morals come into it?

Again, we're judging the man and not the results.

Koeman is more of a crook for the basically taking £6mill a year to destroy a football club

Don't think he did it on his own...had help from the prev manager, and of course our board

 

[blueloon]

It’s going to Fat Sam isn’t it , and he’s going to buy anybody who is anybody , and turn the Old Lady into a Speakeasy.
Anybody who is anybody will soon walk through that door
At Fat Sam's Grand Slam Speakeasy

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&s...7&autoplay=1&usg=AOvVaw0BZjNwOszJEo-JXtblhCaT

 

[granter79]

Should be asking about Conte. Sure their owner would love to get him out of his contract and get someone else in