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YorkieG said:
Dropped this into this Newcastle-dedicated thread so as not to keep derailing the Rafael one with NUFC-related guff!

I'm genuinely interested to know what you mean by this. It's inevitable that I won't agree cos I feel so strongly about Ashley, but genuinely curious about the outsider's perspective.

As a fan of Newcastle, my experience is that Ashley has used our club to progress his other interests at the expense of the progress of the club. Meanwhile he has isolated, ridiculed and shot down club legends (/individuals we're extremely fond of) like Keegan, Benitez, Gutierrez and Shearer; overseen two relegations; allowed deeply unpleasant and grateful chancers like Joe Kinnear, Alan Pardew, Derek Llambias and Steve Bruce to oversee club operations for years at a time; allowed the commercial arm of the club to completely stagnate; let the infrastructure crack and mould whilst dozens of other clubs have invested massively in their's; sold-off the club's land for quick bucks and thus preventing growth in those areas; plus, as I said in the other thread, he's essentially holding his own club to ransom with the debt situation. But above all, he's manifested a grim agenda that our club is a small one that cannot compete and shouldn't try to. If you, as rival fans, think NUFC is small - that's your opinion and I won't ridicule you for it. But for the owner of NUFC to set that tone is basically a sporting crime. It's competitive and has pretty far-reaching implications.

Mike Ashley has effectively left me without a club that I believe I can support, and that's why I detest him. That's why Bruce gets it too, because he's an enabler of this whole charade, just grateful that we airlifted him from the doldrums at the fat end of the Championship; all the while playing the Geordie card and sticking it to his predecessor at every opportunity. He a disingenuous arsehole happily gobbling up every plate of feces his master feeds him.
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NSNO-Chris is just a hard hard man. Bleeds blue.
Perhaps it's because Tom Selleck's ugly brother Graeme Souness once managed Newcastle? Or is it the Keegan-connection?

What I don't understand: where is all the money. Average revenue (tickets, ads, TV) is going up every year. The debt should've been already paid off, or at least a substantial amount of it! Infrastructure was already below par when I was there in 2007. I read only £7m was invested in infrastructure in the last 13 years. Other investment is non-existent in comparison to clubs of a similar size (Tottenham, . There should be a surplus of cash available.

In the time Ashley was there, Arsenal (a bigger club, but nonetheless) paid off the Emirates (300million) & invested more in their squad

In today's fooballing world, all you can hope for is a middle-eastern madman, russian oligarch or American Sports Consortium to buy the club. It is what it is.
 
FrenchDarrenBent said:
NSNO-Chris is just a hard hard man. Bleeds blue.
Perhaps it's because Tom Selleck's ugly brother Graeme Souness once managed Newcastle? Or is it the Keegan-connection?

What I don't understand: where is all the money. Average revenue (tickets, ads, TV) is going up every year. The debt should've been already paid off, or at least a substantial amount of it! Infrastructure was already below par when I was there in 2007. I read only £7m was invested in infrastructure in the last 13 years. Other investment is non-existent in comparison to clubs of a similar size (Tottenham, . There should be a surplus of cash available.

In the time Ashley was there, Arsenal (a bigger club, but nonetheless) paid off the Emirates (300million) & invested more in their squad

In today's fooballing world, all you can hope for is a middle-eastern madman, russian oligarch or American Sports Consortium to buy the club. It is what it is.
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Wages and transfers.
 

Why do they hate us so much?

It's bizarre, the clubs are in no way comparable, I know several Geordies who I love as friends and they're top notch people but when it comes to football.... My word.

I can never get a coherent answer when I try to delve into it, it revolves around them being a one club city apparently.

Well done, you're as big as the Makkems and the Smoggys.
 
Tommy. said:
Why do they hate us so much?

It's bizarre, the clubs are in no way comparable, I know several Geordies who I love as friends and they're top notch people but when it comes to football.... My word.

I can never get a coherent answer when I try to delve into it, it revolves around them being a one club city apparently.

Well done, you're as big as the Makkems and the Smoggys.
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Yes it’s cos they’re a one club city they all wank each off over how BIG and how they are the best fans in the UNIVERSE culminating in a tidal wave of sperm and Slava and then they drink it all and the snowball keeps rolling.
 
YorkieG said:
Dropped this into this Newcastle-dedicated thread so as not to keep derailing the Rafael one with NUFC-related guff!

I'm genuinely interested to know what you mean by this. It's inevitable that I won't agree cos I feel so strongly about Ashley, but genuinely curious about the outsider's perspective.

As a fan of Newcastle, my experience is that Ashley has used our club to progress his other interests at the expense of the progress of the club. Meanwhile he has isolated, ridiculed and shot down club legends (/individuals we're extremely fond of) like Keegan, Benitez, Gutierrez and Shearer; overseen two relegations; allowed deeply unpleasant and grateful chancers like Joe Kinnear, Alan Pardew, Derek Llambias and Steve Bruce to oversee club operations for years at a time; allowed the commercial arm of the club to completely stagnate; let the infrastructure crack and mould whilst dozens of other clubs have invested massively in their's; sold-off the club's land for quick bucks and thus preventing growth in those areas; plus, as I said in the other thread, he's essentially holding his own club to ransom with the debt situation. But above all, he's manifested a grim agenda that our club is a small one that cannot compete and shouldn't try to. If you, as rival fans, think NUFC is small - that's your opinion and I won't ridicule you for it. But for the owner of NUFC to set that tone is basically a sporting crime. It's competitive and has pretty far-reaching implications.

Mike Ashley has effectively left me without a club that I believe I can support, and that's why I detest him. That's why Bruce gets it too, because he's an enabler of this whole charade, just grateful that we airlifted him from the doldrums at the fat end of the Championship; all the while playing the Geordie card and sticking it to his predecessor at every opportunity. He a disingenuous arsehole happily gobbling up every plate of feces his master feeds him.
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Sir Mike is the best thing to happen to you after your previous regime but because he doesn’t cripple you with debt signing gash players who don’t want to be there you turn on him.
Worst fans in the world. FACT.
 

YorkieG said:
Dropped this into this Newcastle-dedicated thread so as not to keep derailing the Rafael one with NUFC-related guff!

I'm genuinely interested to know what you mean by this. It's inevitable that I won't agree cos I feel so strongly about Ashley, but genuinely curious about the outsider's perspective.

As a fan of Newcastle, my experience is that Ashley has used our club to progress his other interests at the expense of the progress of the club. Meanwhile he has isolated, ridiculed and shot down club legends (/individuals we're extremely fond of) like Keegan, Benitez, Gutierrez and Shearer; overseen two relegations; allowed deeply unpleasant and grateful chancers like Joe Kinnear, Alan Pardew, Derek Llambias and Steve Bruce to oversee club operations for years at a time; allowed the commercial arm of the club to completely stagnate; let the infrastructure crack and mould whilst dozens of other clubs have invested massively in their's; sold-off the club's land for quick bucks and thus preventing growth in those areas; plus, as I said in the other thread, he's essentially holding his own club to ransom with the debt situation. But above all, he's manifested a grim agenda that our club is a small one that cannot compete and shouldn't try to. If you, as rival fans, think NUFC is small - that's your opinion and I won't ridicule you for it. But for the owner of NUFC to set that tone is basically a sporting crime. It's competitive and has pretty far-reaching implications.

Mike Ashley has effectively left me without a club that I believe I can support, and that's why I detest him. That's why Bruce gets it too, because he's an enabler of this whole charade, just grateful that we airlifted him from the doldrums at the fat end of the Championship; all the while playing the Geordie card and sticking it to his predecessor at every opportunity. He a disingenuous arsehole happily gobbling up every plate of feces his master feeds him.
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post more please x
 

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