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New York Times article about Premier League

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I'm American so I'd like to hear the Liverpool locals' thoughts on this.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/17/f...rk-creative-circles.html?ref=todayspaper&_r=2

This part seems particularly enraging.

“You buy into the history and the tradition, the values of the club,” said Bryan Lee, a digital brand strategist who grew up in Southern California and lives in Greenpoint. He showed up in a vintage gray Liverpool away jersey. “Historically, Liverpool has been a blue-collar port city,” added Mr. Lee, 24, as thoughtful as if he were delivering his orals at graduate school. “The politics of Liverpool was really sort of anti-Thatcher. It’s become the people’s club. Those hardworking blue-collar values never really left, even though it’s been ushered into the modern era of the club being a global franchise.”
 

Liverpool were the first club in the world set up solely to make a profit and the first to put sponsors on their shirts.

If Thatcher liked football she would probably have picked them.
 
Liverpool were the first club in the world set up solely to make a profit and the first to put sponsors on their shirts.

If Thatcher liked football she would probably have picked them.
Liverpool were the first club in the world set up solely to make a profit and the first to put sponsors on their shirts.

If Thatcher liked football she would probably have picked them.

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As an American, it's an interesting (well-written) article with a specific slant. It has a small audience, non-hipster erudites (specifically those in larger cities), and those who want to be non-hipster erudites. The article has a certain charm (partially to me because the Mrs Nigh taught at a local college before being employed as a mom) but it misses the larger picture. That said, I take it as part of the larger picture, which is that the Premier League is increasing in popularity among many groups in the US, and I don't think that's a bad thing.
 

Here are the better parts of the article:

While postwar literary lions like John Updike and Philip Roth looked to the diamond to find poetry in sports, the new generation looks to the pitch (field). David Remnick, The New Yorker editor, and David Hirshey, a prominent editor at HarperCollins, are soccer aficionados, and Franklin Foer, the New Republic editor, gained fame with his 2004 book, “How Soccer Explains the World.”

A new generation of literati is now following in their footsteps.

“It’s almost guaranteed that almost any male literary person under the age of 45 is going to be somewhat versed in soccer,” said Sean Wilsey, a writer who helped edit “The Thinking Fan’s Guide to the World Cup,” a 2006 compilation of essays by the likes of Dave Eggers and Robert Coover. As a conversation topic, it has become inevitable at book parties, in part because it is both sophisticated and safe. “Isn’t it sort of a relief to talk about the English Premier League instead of the sad state of publishing?” he added. “It’s a great default topic.”

Among younger American writers who came of age on Nick Hornby’s soccer books like “Fever Pitch,” rooting for Arsenal, Mr. Hornby’s club of choice, is almost de rigueur, said Rosie Schaap, an American-born memoirist who considers herself a die-hard Tottenham Hotspur fan. (She also writes the monthly Drink column for The New York Times Magazine).

“Any time I’m at a book party or reading, and soccer comes up in conversation, I find myself surrounded by young men in shabby-genteel, loosely fitting tweed jackets gushing over the Gunners,” Ms. Schaap said. “In such settings, being an Arsenal supporter is even more predictable than having an M.F.A. or a pair of horn-rimmed glasses.”

For on-trend types with an internationalist bent, supporting (never rooting for) a Premier League club (never team) is not just a pleasant diversion, but a public display of global cultural literacy.

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Still soccer remains, in the eyes of many Americans, a world game. And that world game is surging in the United States thanks to the explosion of foreign soccer on television and the Internet.

When Roger Bennett, a New York-based soccer pundit who grew up in Liverpool, moved to the United States in 1996, he remembers having to follow big Everton matches by telephone, his father holding the receiver up to the radio back home. Now, cable television is filled with soccer: Spain’s La Liga, Germany’s Bundesliga, Italy’s Serie A and Mexico’s Liga MX. On the Internet, fans can follow matches from the Italian second division, check out Brazilian highlights on YouTube, and take in the latest gossip for VfB Stuttgart. In fact, Mr. Bennett has become a leading evangelist for American soccer converts through his popular Men in Blazers soccer talk show onGrantland and SiriusXM, which he hosts with Michael Davies.

“It is often said that baseball blew up in America in the age of radio, and the N.F.L. rose to dominance once television took over,” Mr. Bennett said. “Soccer is the perfect sport for the Internet era. American fans can follow games and instantaneously track information from global leagues both big and small, feeling as close to their favorite teams as if they lived within a thrown beer of their stadium.”

Despite the many soccer offerings from around the globe, and right here at home, the Premier League remains the vogue-ish choice for many New York creative types, according to Mark Kirby, a former GQ editor who in 2012 helped found Howler, a sumptuous soccer quarterly that was hailed by The Guardian as “a football magazine fit for aesthetes.”

“We noticed that all of our friends were trying to figure out which team to root for in England,” he said.

He cited several reasons for the fetish for English soccer in particular: the Premier League’s ubiquity on television, the lack of a language barrier. And, of course, there is garden-variety Anglophilia.

Mr. Bennett, for his part, suggested another: the early start of the games in bars.

“You should never underestimate the allure of daytime drinking,” Mr. Bennett said. “If you’re in a bar at 7 in morning with a pint of Guinness, you have a social problem. If you are in a bar at 7 in the morning with that same pint of Guinness and Chelsea is on TV, you’re a football fan.”
 

As an American, it's an interesting (well-written) article with a specific slant. It has a small audience, non-hipster erudites (specifically those in larger cities), and those who want to be non-hipster erudites. The article has a certain charm (partially to me because the Mrs Nigh taught at a local college before being employed as a mom) but it misses the larger picture. That said, I take it as part of the larger picture, which is that the Premier League is increasing in popularity among many groups in the US, and I don't think that's a bad thing.

Those people are opinion formers, though and where they lead today the herd follows.

They start bigging Liverpool up in that fashion and the obvious bollox contained within articles like that become accepted truths among the wider, non esoteric populace.

It was one such fellow, Nick Hornby, whom is credited with creating the atmosphere which saw soccer in England leaving its traditional "blue collar (to borrow a phrase from the piece)" fanbase to becoming the sport of the self proclaimed avant garde breed of fan who wanted going the match to be akin to going to the theatre when his book, excellent read it must be said, Fever Pitch was published circa 1990.

The result was that Arsenal, previously regarded as a dour, efficient type of team became very fashionable in the early to mid 90s.

They had the great good fortune to appoint Arsene Wenger as manager and they were able to morph into the image Hornby had created for them......but the template for all that happened in the Wenger years was fashioned by the romanticism of Hornby's tome.

The long term effect of this, of course, has been the game becoming infected with PC gauleiters like David Baddiel taking it upon themselves to tell football fans what they may or may not chant at games.

And the traditional "blue collar" fan is being priced out the game.
 
Those people are opinion formers, though and where they lead today the herd follows.

They start bigging Liverpool up in that fashion and the obvious bollox contained within articles like that become accepted truths among the wider, non esoteric populace.

It was one such fellow, Nick Hornby, whom is credited with creating the atmosphere which saw soccer in England leaving its traditional "blue collar (to borrow a phrase from the piece)" fanbase to becoming the sport of the self proclaimed avant garde breed of fan who wanted going the match to be akin to going to the theatre when his book, excellent read it must be said, Fever Pitch was published circa 1990.

The result was that Arsenal, previously regarded as a dour, efficient type of team became very fashionable in the early to mid 90s.

They had the great good fortune to appoint Arsene Wenger as manager and they were able to morph into the image Hornby had created for them......but the template for all that happened in the Wenger years was fashioned by the romanticism of Hornby's tome.

The long term effect of this, of course, has been the game becoming infected with PC gauleiters like David Baddiel taking it upon themselves to tell football fans what they may or may not chant at games.

And the traditional "blue collar" fan is being priced out the game.

To be fair to Hornby, he didn't paint them as anything but this. My inference was that he was, in effect, saying they're boring Arsenal, but they're my boring Arsenal.

I agree with what you're saying in general. It reminds me of George Melly recalling attending a jazz concert and being frowned at for tapping his foot. In much the same way that the middle class tried to seperate jazz from it's irreverent roots, intellectuals feel the need to 'cure' football of the working class in order to make it worhty of their time
 

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