New round of covid boosters. Will you get yours?

Will you book acovid booster?

  • No

    Votes: 57 51.4%

  • Yes

    Votes: 49 44.1%

  • Conspiracy theory on toast

    Votes: 5 4.5%
  • Total voters
    111
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dholliday said:
The spike-protein isn't the virus per se, it's the entry-point of the virus. The mRNA-vaccine is effectively against the entry-point, not against the virus cells itself (which is what traditional live/dead-virus vaccines do).

You've consistently experienced "terrible" (your words) side-effects from the jab. 5 times now you've experienced this. This indicates a consistent over-active immune response to what the jab is doing. This is unusual in many respects: not least getting a vaccine for one singular virus 5 times within 24 months...especially when your body appears to be trying to tell you that it's suffering after every time.

Anyone who's had Covid more than once often report the infections being quite different to each other, regardless of vaccination status. This is natural as coronaviri mutate, and they affect folk differently. Like common colds.

Your body's response to the vaccine is no indication of what your body's response would be to an infection, because with an infection it's not the spike-protein which does the damage (as it's merely an entry-point), it's the virus cells which do the damage...hence there being little actual evidence of vaccine-effectiveness as the mRNA-vaccine doesn't replicate an infection....it only replicates 'the door' to an infection.

Which would be great if it meant an infection then finding that 'door' closed. But as we know, replicating that 'door' via mRNA-vaccine still doesn't prevent the actual virus from getting in.

So if it doesn't do that, what does it do?


In one of the largest peer-reviewed studies of its kind: almost half-a-million subjects accounted for in a study determining the risk factor of Covid first-infection, and re-infection. As expected, for high-risk folk an infection increased the risk of premature death....and a re-infection further increased this risk.

So far, so grim. But we know this from other infectious diseases like the flu.

What's relevant for the multi-jabbers out there is the conclusion that "The risks were evident regardless of vaccination status".


There is no evidence that the side-effects from the mRNA-vaccines (spike-protein weighted) give any clue as to how the same individual may react to a sars-cov-2 infection (virus-cell weighted). On the contrary, there is evidence that vaccination makes little-to-no difference to infection-symptoms in the Omicron-era...this is also evidenced by the UK-government data I linked earlier, which told us the ratio of vaxxed/unvaxxed deaths/hospitalisations roughly corresponds with the ratio of vaxxed/unvaxxed adults.


Further: the vaccines may cause Long-Covid symptoms in some individuals. It goes without saying that the more one jabs, the higher the risk of this happening (especially if after each jab "terrible" side-effects are experienced).
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dholliday said:
Each to their own and all that...but in my view a sober reading of available data objectively makes an unconvincing case for healthy folk to repeat-jab.
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dholliday said:
The spike-protein isn't the virus per se, it's the entry-point of the virus. The mRNA-vaccine is effectively against the entry-point, not against the virus cells itself (which is what traditional live/dead-virus vaccines do).

You've consistently experienced "terrible" (your words) side-effects from the jab. 5 times now you've experienced this. This indicates a consistent over-active immune response to what the jab is doing. This is unusual in many respects: not least getting a vaccine for one singular virus 5 times within 24 months...especially when your body appears to be trying to tell you that it's suffering after every time.

Anyone who's had Covid more than once often report the infections being quite different to each other, regardless of vaccination status. This is natural as coronaviri mutate, and they affect folk differently. Like common colds.

Your body's response to the vaccine is no indication of what your body's response would be to an infection, because with an infection it's not the spike-protein which does the damage (as it's merely an entry-point), it's the virus cells which do the damage...hence there being little actual evidence of vaccine-effectiveness as the mRNA-vaccine doesn't replicate an infection....it only replicates 'the door' to an infection.

Which would be great if it meant an infection then finding that 'door' closed. But as we know, replicating that 'door' via mRNA-vaccine still doesn't prevent the actual virus from getting in.

So if it doesn't do that, what does it do?


In one of the largest peer-reviewed studies of its kind: almost half-a-million subjects accounted for in a study determining the risk factor of Covid first-infection, and re-infection. As expected, for high-risk folk an infection increased the risk of premature death....and a re-infection further increased this risk.

So far, so grim. But we know this from other infectious diseases like the flu.

What's relevant for the multi-jabbers out there is the conclusion that "The risks were evident regardless of vaccination status".


There is no evidence that the side-effects from the mRNA-vaccines (spike-protein weighted) give any clue as to how the same individual may react to a sars-cov-2 infection (virus-cell weighted). On the contrary, there is evidence that vaccination makes little-to-no difference to infection-symptoms in the Omicron-era...this is also evidenced by the UK-government data I linked earlier, which told us the ratio of vaxxed/unvaxxed deaths/hospitalisations roughly corresponds with the ratio of vaxxed/unvaxxed adults.


Further: the vaccines may cause Long-Covid symptoms in some individuals. It goes without saying that the more one jabs, the higher the risk of this happening (especially if after each jab "terrible" side-effects are experienced).



Each to their own and all that...but in my view a sober reading of available data objectively makes an unconvincing case for healthy folk to repeat-jab.
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My goodness, you are so full of...googling.
 
To be on topic - no, but because I recently had the mildest covid and I don't think it makes sense currently.
First time pre-vaccine times it wasn't horrible (considering I'm asthmatic) - but I did have anosmia, three days of some of the most severe headaches I've ever had, a heaviness in my chest and a serious cough for a week, then it went away 10 or so days later.
Second time - positive tests, but I basically only had the most severe sniffles I've ever had.
Third time (recently) - felt extremely tired for a few days and surprisingly had anosmia to go with that, nothing else.
Keep in mind this is all with many moons between them and I've had both first 2 doses and 1 booster as soon as they were announced/rolled out around my parts. It's a recommendation for people in danger currently, elderly and all, around here but it's basically advised who/when to get it by their respective GP's. If my GP tells me I should - I will, I've had nothing happen to me from the previous ones; the first one did make me sleepy and I had a nap though, that was the biggest danger it posed to me really.
 
I don't think so, no. Me and the missus got our three OG jabs back when they were offered, but told ourselves that we probably wouldn't get boosters after that.

We're fit & healthy(ish) young people with no underlaying issues. No adverse effects of Covid between the two of us and we'll always respect others' personal space and apply common sense when either of us, or someone else we know, is otherwise feeling a little under the weather.
 

Had my first 2 and would only take another one if needed for holiday.

I've had covid 3 times that i know off and wasn't too bad either time. Was sick after both jabs but i have been sick after other jabs in the past, my body just doesn't seem to react well to them.
 

Tramps_mate said:
My arm is actually really bad this week. I think I'm going to have to make a doctor's appointment.
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Have the docs said anything about that since when you've gone?

First time I'm hearing of this remaining as a symptom - I've had it with the 1st one for a tiny bit (and from regular shots back in the day), but it never persists like that. Sorry to hear mate, must be awful.
 

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