New Everton Stadium - Hill Dickinson Stadium

[Jacko93]

United one shows how costs ramp up, will be twice the capacity but three times the cost and like you say I’m not sure how much more cost we could have survived.

The United cost includes much more than just the stadium btw. It also includes all the surrounding buildings as part of the development landscape. However, I think that they are being extremely ambitious with their costing. That will increase by at least 20% before they get workers on site.

I don't see it being viable in all honestly, mostly due to funding. Certainly not at that scale of development.

 

[The binman chronicles]

From some angles Utd's proposed stadium looks ok, but generally not a fan. 2 billion is buttons in today's money, add at least 50% on top.

 

[blulouie]

I thought this was a joke, until I saw it on Sky.
Can`t wait for it, 2 billion quid, best stadium in League one at the rate they are going.

How do they even contemplate this when they are over a billion in debt ?

 

[Davideeyore]

Our former small time Chairman and owner have absolutely knackered us with a capacity of only 50k.

Absolutely. Elstone, what a charlatan. But he wasn't alone. The club was full of them.

 

[OzarkBlue]

Duncan Ferguson- I've seen the shouts for him to be one of the legends in Everton way but he was gone for the 2nd time just before I got hooked on Everton.

Trying to understand his greatness, I checked his goal scoring record. Surprised to find that he was roughly a 1 in 4 striker. His year by year has a whiff of Nicky Lewin about it.

Can y'all set me straight as to why Duncan merits a stone?

 

[Drico]

On a side note it’s going to be nice to have a new circus to go to, can’t wait to see the acts they will have lined up.
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Good to see them bring that Jeddah feel to the Premier League.

 

[Jacko93]

Costs will spiral massively on a project of that scale. I really hope they build it! On another note, can you imagine the atmosphere in that vast bowl. Its certainly not been designed with the intense atmosphere in mind!

Would be interesting to know what material the Big Top is made out of. It looks remarkably thin to be anything other than acoustically transparent. Maybe they're hoping that the sound of rain on the cover will complement any murmurs in the crowd.

 

[Drico]

Don't think that United stadium gets built.

Definitely not "in five years."

I think it gets pitched rather than built.

Definitely a new "camp", that one.

 

[perth_blue]

From some angles Utd's proposed stadium looks ok, but generally not a fan. 2 billion is buttons in today's money, add at least 50% on top.

Can guarantee it won't come in at 2bn.

 

[Drico]

Would be interesting to know what material the Big Top is made out of. It looks remarkably thin to be anything other than acoustically transparent. Maybe they're hoping that the sound of rain on the cover will complement any murmurs in the crowd.

A pastiche of the Munich Olympiastadion.

 

[Drico]

United one shows how costs ramp up, will be twice the capacity but three times the cost and like you say I’m not sure how much more cost we could have survived.

As much as I think we could have gone to 60,000 - and should have, ideally - the reality is the new stadium with the right ownership changes our horizons. If the ownership proves its worth, there is no reason why a capacity upgrade would not be possible at some point in the future. I think the club simply has to establish that the capacity is needed (in the past, there was some debate over whether we needed to go higher than 50) and it also needs to make such a success of the new stadium and location that the council would not object to filling in a bit more of the nearby dock if that allowed for expansion.

While I suspect the new owners would already have thoughts on how they could expand further, the aim now must be to establish us as a top eight club with genuine prospects of regular Champions League football. An extra 10,000 seats on this new stadium won't make that significantly more likely until we are already within striking distance. That's where we need to be focusing now. Starting in June.

 

[Drico]

How do they even contemplate this when they are over a billion in debt ?

Your tax money will stretch all the way to Sir Jim's bank account.

 

[Tony’s Carp]

Few extra sandwiches in the canteen: unnecessary expenditure.

Three massive pointless vanity towers: get them built.

 

[Cow kecks]

That'll be five years site time. It won't even be designed to any serious level yet.

That has to be one of the biggest joke stadiums I have ever seen. Hahaha. Genuinely hilarious.

Also interesting how he says, "If the Govt. help with funding, we will have a top stadium". Sound very different to Burnham saying they will pay for the relocation of industrial transport networks to enable the stadium to be located where they want it. Work that in itself will take 5 years, never mind the stadium itself.

Disagree mate, in doesn't take 5 years to pitch a tent, be done in no time.

 

[Lee Smith]

Duncan Ferguson- I've seen the shouts for him to be one of the legends in Everton way but he was gone for the 2nd time just before I got hooked on Everton.

Trying to understand his greatness, I checked his goal scoring record. Surprised to find that he was roughly a 1 in 4 striker. His year by year has a whiff of Nicky Lewin about it.

Can y'all set me straight as to why Duncan merits a stone?

The thing with Duncan is (for me at least, during his time here I was a very impressionable teenager / young adult), with him it was never really about his goal return.

He was injured way too much (not his fault) and suspended too much (very much his fault), or in jail (!), but that was part of what I liked about him. He was a player who never backed down, and always seemed to turn up for the big games. Many of the elite centre-halves of that era have since said in interviews etc that he was the one player they hated playing against the most, as they knew they were in for a hard afternoon. I think at one point he actually held the Premier League record for most goals scored against Man U (I may have totally mis-remembered that fact and made it up, don't quote me on that!), who at the time were by far the best team in the country.

He also got a load of assists by being so dominant in the air. He once scored a hat-trick of headers (against QPR if I remember correctly). But also had "surprisingly good feet for a big lad". The one and only time I ever saw someone get the better of him in the air throughout a match was the Fulham defender Zat Knight (who was about 6ft 7)!

He even purposely let the keeper save his penalty with one of his last ever kicks for us in his last ever game, just so he could score the rebound so the goal didn't go down as a penalty...

It was clear as day he loved the club and most of the fans loved him.

He was one of the few shining lights in an otherwise pretty grim era for us. More than deserved to have his place recognised at BMD with a stone.

Just watch one of the many YouTube videos of him, you'll understand.