New Everton Stadium - Hill Dickinson Stadium

[Blue Willy]

but fr
om a stadium design and business point of view, 5000 seats at say £50 per seat (to keep the maths simple) brings in £250,000 per game and because these are readily available, people ar less likely to buy hospitality.
1000 seats in hospitality also brings in £250,000pg but retains a rarity factor of seats so those desperate to get to a game may have no option but to go hospitality. Then there is the added bonus of not having to build the extra 4000 seats that are the most expensive to build, bring in less, and may not always sell.

53000 is fine.

I disagree - plenty of ways to manage normal fan/hospitality ratios as other clubs have successfully done. It should have been 55+ with solid expansion options for future development to say at least 60, 65+. But we will agree, its still awesome!

 

[arch stanton]

I disagree - plenty of ways to manage normal fan/hospitality ratios as other clubs have successfully done. It should have been 55+ with solid expansion options for future development to say at least 60, 65+. But we will agree, its still awesome!

I am fine with you disagreeing with me, it's your prerogative. The people who run our club, financiers and the professional stadium designers dont agree with you

 

[Brennan]

Build houses elsewhere then. The city has been blighted by construction projects which don't finish.

Building world class office space on the waterfront is what I strongly believe is best.

Brand new open place offices would attract some global businesses. Even if it's a "wework" or something.

I'm not happy they want to build some cheap new builds in what is a very desirable location.

Based on what?

 

[BullensRoad]

No mate, What's short sighted is advocating ploughing money into a depressed commercial property market when modern work habits etc make office space less required than at any point in decades. It 100% doesn't work that way. A part of my job is looking at commercial property as part of personal investing and it is difficult to make money in that sector currently.

We have a lack of houses and, to an extent, certain sizes of apartments but any sort of office-space led development at the moment would be hugely risky.

Do you work in the Liverpool city region by any chance? Organisations don't want to move into the outdated buildings we have now, they want fresh, modern open buildings to appease millennials.

You're saying this prime land that has so much potential should be cheap new builds?

I can see why Castore left the city as quick as they could with these sort of opinions.

I have to work in London as there's no companies in my profession who have offices up here.

I can't believe what should be an iconic waterfront is going to end up being cheap housing , it's horrendous.

 

[BullensRoad]

Based on what?

Leave it empty then and a few new builds instead pal.

 

[Brennan]

Leave it empty then and a few new builds instead pal.

There’s 261 different properties in Liverpool offering office space, just on Rightmove. Included in this is plenty of premium serviced units.

There isn’t a shortage of premium office space.

The idea that local government should then be incentivising companies to move into additional office space, likely at a significant cost to the taxpayer is pretty wild.

If we’re interested in attracting business, just offer incentives on the hundreds of already vacant office spaces.

 

[Blue Willy]

I am fine with you disagreeing with me, it's your prerogative. The people who run our club, financiers and the professional stadium designers dont agree with you

Thats your prerogative. But I bet thats not actually 100% true and I bet most of them deep down agree with me that 52 may be fine now, but perhaps not so optimal in the future. Especially moreso with more financial clout and optimism. There should have been at least some fairly moderate expansion plans. But either way, its still a magnificent stadium at 52 and a bit.

 

[BullensRoad]

There’s 261 different properties in Liverpool offering office space, just on Rightmove. Included in this is plenty of premium serviced units.

There isn’t a shortage of premium office space.

The idea that local government should then be incentivising companies to move into additional office space, likely at a significant cost to the taxpayer is pretty wild.

If we’re interested in attracting business, just offer incentives on the hundreds of already vacant office spaces.

There's nothing modern that blue chip companies would relocate to.

So you want some cheap new builds on what's meant to be our iconic waterfront? I'm truly baffled by this, no wonder we're just a tourist city.

Let's be Manchesters second choice then forever.

 

[James Patrick]

Do you work in the Liverpool city region by any chance? Organisations don't want to move into the outdated buildings we have now, they want fresh, modern open buildings to appease millennials.

You're saying this prime land that has so much potential should be cheap new builds?

I can see why Castore left the city as quick as they could with these sort of opinions.

I have to work in London as there's no companies in my profession who have offices up here.

I can't believe what should be an iconic waterfront is going to end up being cheap housing , it's horrendous.

Have you asked them why they don't have offices up here ? Surely based on what you're saying they as a minimum must be desperate to have an office in Manchester if not Liverpool ? Or is it simply like many other businesses they don't need another office once they have one in London ?

 

[Lanolin]

Nobody’s paying premium prices for office space in 2025, it only gets used a couple of days a week!

 

[tommye]

Nobody’s paying premium prices for office space in 2025, it only gets used a couple of days a week!

Someone needs to let Colon Musk up there know. He wants to flood the waterfront with big empty office blocks while there's a shortage of good homes across the country.

 

[BullensRoad]

Have you asked them why they don't have offices up here ? Surely based on what you're saying they as a minimum must be desperate to have an office in Manchester if not Liverpool ? Or is it simply like many other businesses they don't need another office once they have one in London ?

This the same attitude why Liverpool is in decline and only reliant on tourism. Why even bother anymore.

 

[BullensRoad]

Nobody’s paying premium prices for office space in 2025, it only gets used a couple of days a week!

They all need a head office pal.

 

[BullensRoad]

Tonnes of empty office spaces in and around Liverpool.
Don't need any more office space.
People need homes, not empty office blocks.

The office space you're talking about is redundant. Let's just put some cheap new builds on an iconic waterfront instead of some incredible buildings.

 

[tommye]

The office space you're talking about is redundant. Let's just put some cheap new builds on an iconic waterfront instead of some incredible buildings.

Id rather see it full of homes and families that will create communities to last generations rather than half arsed empty office blocks and car parks.

You do you though