New Everton Stadium Discussion

[gazzaa2]

Watching the Palace v Arsenal game last night just re-inforces to me that having 60k as opposed to 53k is a secondary issue.

What we need is a stadium with atmosphere. Loud, raucous, intimidating. One where the fans actually have decent chants/songs that they know the words to and belt out at the top of their voices. Selhurst Park seems to have the best atmosphere in the league and that's an absolute dump with a capacity of, what, <30,000? It's because their fans decided to make it into the best atmosphere.

Look at Fenerbahce or Galatasaray. Modern stadiums with similar or smaller capacity than BMD. Incredible venues.

It's not the number of seats we should be focussed on. It's how do we, as a fanbase, turn BMD into an iconic stadium with a world-beating atmosphere?

'It's a Grand Old Team' should be left at Goodison.

Goodison still has the best atmosphere in the PL even now when the fans are up for it.

Selhurst is consistent but it's the same noise every week.

The concern with the new stadium is we lose that impact.

 

[gazzaa2]

been to selhurst park once and the atmosphere was worse than goodison.
if we were beating arsenal 3 nil at home in a night game the atmosphere at goodison would be great too.

The fans won us the game against Arsenal this season. Selhurst doesn't have the same impact.

 

[Dancing Pat]

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Be absolutely horrific seeing that looming up out the dark on a cold winters night

Agree, but just imagine poor Jenny Seagrove every Friday night, lying there looking up at his sweaty contorted grid as he pounds away in time with Z-Cars while wearing his XXXL Dave Hickson shirt…

 

[tmgc]

Agree, but just imagine poor Jenny Seagrove every Friday night, lying there looking up at his sweaty contorted grid as he pounds away in time with Z-Cars while wearing his XXXL Dave Hickson shirt…

The Cannonball Grid

 

[chicoazul]

We are talking about atmosphere. When Goodison has it, it is rocking. Unfortunately the atmosphere is often rubbish.

We all love it when Goodison is rocking, but when people criticise when the atmosphere isn’t good, people get all defensive and say ‘thats not Everton’ or ‘singing is kopite behaviour’ or a new one ‘we don’t want to become jarg ultras’.

Aye it’s possible to have sound atmospheres when it matters without being jarg ultras mate. It doesn’t work forcing this type of stuff on Evertonians, they just don’t like this kind of stuff.

 

[tommye]

Agree, but just imagine poor Jenny Seagrove every Friday night, lying there looking up at his sweaty contorted grid as he pounds away in time with Z-Cars while wearing his XXXL Dave Hickson shirt…

Like a page from a Mills and Boone.
Beautiful ???

 

[gazzaa2]

We are talking about atmosphere. When Goodison has it, it is rocking. Unfortunately the atmosphere is often rubbish.

We all love it when Goodison is rocking, but when people criticise when the atmosphere isn’t good, people get all defensive and say ‘thats not Everton’ or ‘singing is kopite behaviour’ or a new one ‘we don’t want to become jarg ultras’.

Ultras don't impact the game though. They sing the same songs at the same times every week and that's it.

There's more to atmosphere than singing songs and choreography.

Palace's local rivals are Millwall who'd laugh at Palace ultras. Millwall fans at the Den can impact the game, Palace's don't, it's all for show.

 

[Gardocki]

Aye it’s possible to have sound atmospheres when it matters without being jarg ultras mate. It doesn’t work forcing this type of stuff on Evertonians, they just don’t like this kind of stuff.

It worked against Leeds. There was a week long campaign to get colours/flags/voices out in force.

We are arguing two sides of the same coin tbf. My original point was about creating a great atmosphere consistently at BMD. It doesn’t have to be 60,000 to be the best stadium in the country if we consistently create a cauldron of noise.

 

[WilliamPerry]

Ultras don't impact the game though. They sing the same songs at the same times every week and that's it.

There's more to atmosphere than singing songs and choreography.

Palace's local rivals are Millwall who'd laugh at Palace ultras. Millwall fans at the Den can impact the game, Palace's don't, it's all for show.

Spot on .

 

[Gardocki]

Spot on .

Palace fans >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Millwall fans.

Unless racism, violence, and rarely going to the game are considered desirable qualities in a fan base.

 

[WilliamPerry]

Palace fans >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Millwall fans.

Unless racism, violence, and rarely going to the game are considered desirable qualities in a fan base.

I’m talking about atmosphere. That blag ultra noise does Nothing for me . The atmosphere at the den when millwall beat us was boss .

 

[tommye]

Aye it’s possible to have sound atmospheres when it matters without being jarg ultras mate. It doesn’t work forcing this type of stuff on Evertonians, they just don’t like this kind of stuff.

We're a simple lot really. Give us 100% and we'll give it back and then some. They turn up half arsed and go through the motions and we'll very quickly let them know what we think.

 

[chicoazul]

It worked against Leeds. There was a week long campaign to get colours/flags/voices out in force.

We are arguing two sides of the same coin tbf. My original point was about creating a great atmosphere consistently at BMD. It doesn’t have to be 60,000 to be the best stadium in the country if we consistently create a cauldron of noise.

I wish we could do stuff that would invoke a bear pit more often but as you’ll know being a blue we’re a peculiar bunch. Leeds same as Newcastle was scale of the game as much as initiative. Good luck with your cause though mate.

 

[SupaStake]

The fans won us the game against Arsenal this season. Selhurst doesn't have the same impact.

Didn’t we just lose there

 

[Big Neville Southall]

Considering that the rail seats are at the front of the stand not the back, this suggests that any atmosphere may need to be ultra led.