New Everton Stadium Discussion


So there are 'preliminary renenderings' of the stadium, just not available to the great unwashed.


Every time that feller opens his grid he sounds more and more redundant.

He says he hasn't been informed that the club are seeking to fund from the private sector - well he has, along with the rest of us.

His idea is dead. He just wont admit it for reasons of personal vanity.
 
Every time that feller opens his grid he sounds more and more redundant.

He says he hasn't been informed that the club are seeking to fund from the private sector - well he has, along with the rest of us.

His idea is dead. He just wont admit it for reasons of personal vanity.

He’s holding onto his political career by a thread; he has this and the ten streets project. Then there’ll be one more major “joint” development/improvement work that’ll be released just before elections next year.

He’s toast
 
He’s holding onto his political career by a thread; he has this and the ten streets project. Then there’ll be one more major “joint” development/improvement work that’ll be released just before elections next year.

He’s toast
What does it say about poor old Joe that he's in public saying that Everton haven't told him personally about their change of direction on funding....and he's willing to admit that? Pathetic.

Joe Anderson is for the regeneration of Joe Anderson. Liverpool comes a distant second.
 
What does it say about poor old Joe that he's in public saying that Everton haven't told him personally about their change of direction on funding....and he's willing to admit that? Pathetic.

Joe Anderson is for the regeneration of Joe Anderson. Liverpool comes a distant second.

...I presume your angst regarding the Council funding stream is political, in that you don’t believe in using public funding to support private enterprise?

I have no issue with that but is that more the case than thinking it would be a bad deal for Everton?
 

Short answer: Design revealed July 2015 (though some ground works had begun before then), planning permission granted December 2015, building work started not long after, opening date looks like it'll be Jan 2019.

Long answer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northumberland_Development_Project#Planning_history

In truth, you can't easily separate the timeline of the new stadium design (2015 - now) from the work that had gone before that for the scrapped stadium design (dating back to 2007/8). So much of the land purchase, compulsory purchase orders, public consultations, discussions with heritage bodies, things being called in the by Secretary of State (that took 18 months) etc were done for the first, scrapped scheme but they carried across for the new scheme. It's been, on and off, a 12 year project with two different stadium designs for this site.

Also, we were playing at WHL for a season whilst the new ground was being built around it, so the south stand construction couldn't start till WHL had been demolished...obviously a complication you won't have.

The same way we are paying for ours. Convincing banks to lend the cash for a decent rate of interest. Both of our clubs will be burdened with the loans for many years to come.



Levy has been trying to build a stadium for the best part of 15 years. The thing is though there have been several projects and when each ended that was it they were dead. The current stadium project started in 2015 and actually when planning permission was given the build had already started (they had started the piling for the foundations).

The failed projects with completely different plans are seperate and detached from this and not really anything to do with the current build. Claiming they are is like me claiming all the past Everton proposals are included in the current BMD project.

Anyone know whom is the more reliable poster?
 
Every time that feller opens his grid he sounds more and more redundant....
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Anyone know whom is the more reliable poster?

The current stadium project couldn't go ahead as fast as it is without all the prep work that went into the first project - buying up the Wingate Trading Estate north of the stadium over the course of a decade, working out where we stood with the heritage buildings (the very first design had us demolishing the lot - of course that lead to objections from English Heritage etc), going through the courts to buy out Archway Steel which took the best part of thee years including an 18 month hiatus when it was being judged by Eric Pickles, building the enabling developments to the north such as the supermarket (Phase 1), carrying over big parts of previously agreed transport, policing plans etc etc.

The new project was built very much on the back of the work done for the scrapped one and went through planning smoothly because there was already an agreed plan for a c60k stadium on the site and because the obstacles had been dealt with already. The rough layout of the masterplan is very similar, the footprint of the stadium is nearly the same as the scrapped design, and all the prep work carried over as it's the same site.

Still, BMD is quite a different site. And there's no reason to think you'll end up scrapping Meis' design and hiring another architect a few years on. So really, don't use that 12 years as a reference!
 
Think Anderson is talking sense around the current CGIs that he has seen. During this next year of consultation and planning preparation, showing some visuals that demonstrate a design sympathetic to the World Heritage Site and not just an ugly pop-up stadium will probably help Everton's cause in convincing the people of Liverpool and Merseyside that this is a fabulous opportunity for the whole region and North West, regardless of team allegiance. I think that most deluded and selfish Reds still won't be supportive but for those that are fair-minded or have no team at heart it may help get them on-side. Consultation will shape final design and seeing the initial plans will help fans (and non EFC fans) provide meaningful input to the consultation process. Seems to me that all this non-communication around the current outline design/visuals is undermining the relatively positive (albeit a bit slow) steps the club appear to be taking towards finally realising a new stadium for Everton.
 

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