New Everton Owners: The Friedkin Group

[Jacko93]

From my experience, when a company is taken over, even though all employees are protected by TUPE, the new owners are entitled to restructure the business and that can also included redundancies and part of that process can include asking people to reapply for their jobs so they can see who to make redundant.

Something like that anyway. The rumour might have been codswallop though. Just have to wait and see what happens when it is completed.

I do doubt it's true tbh. I just hope the rumour hasn't gone so far as to reach the people it might affect.

I might be wrong, but if they're forcing people to re-apply then there must be some duplication of role. If not, they must be making the whole role redundant, so they can't just go out and fill it immediately.

Anyway, like you say, we'll see when it goes through.

 

[Evertonthat]

Must be close now, this takeover. We've officially entered the "mid November to mid December" period that is was suggested the deal could be completed by.

 

[Exeter_Gently]

If they are going to make everyone reapply for their jobs, it sounds already like a really awful workplace environment.

Not really mate, they will just want people who they feel are up to the job in those positions.

Too long the club has been ran like a 2 bit operation,and basically if you're not up to scratch they will bring someone in who is, unfortunately this is just the way of the big bad world.

 

[Stuartisitc1878]

Must be close now, this takeover. We've officially entered the "mid November to mid December" period that is was suggested the deal could be completed by.

the Bobble said the other day that Premier league approval normally comes (assuming all is ok) a couple of weeks after the FCA and FA approval, which the Freidkin Group passed almost a week ago I think?
You'd like to think everything will be signed, sealed and delivered by the end of the month. But this is Everton.

 

[Lob]

I do doubt it's true tbh. I just hope the rumour hasn't gone so far as to reach the people it might affect.

I might be wrong, but if they're forcing people to re-apply then there must be some duplication of role. If not, they must be making the whole role redundant, so they can't just go out and fill it immediately.

Anyway, like you say, we'll see when it goes through.

Yeah it should be interesting seeing what happens. They are buying a 'failing' business that has been very badly ran in all areas top to bottom and is in massive debt and financial chaos. That alone gives them grounds for restructuring all areas that require it. It would be impossible to improve the business and make it sustainable and profitable without doing so.

When you think of it that way it makes sense that they will be identifying problematic areas and in some cases maybe immediate redundancy and in other cases asking people to reapply for their positions in which they may be made redundant and the position filled by someone more qualified and competent.

It is going to be an interesting period no matter what happens. Looking forward to it whatever comes to pass to be honest. Been stagnant too long now.

 

[Lanolin]

Not really mate, they will just want people who they feel are up to the job in those positions.

Too long the club has been ran like a 2 bit operation,and basically if you're not up to scratch they will bring someone in who is, unfortunately this is just the way of the big bad world.

It depends what we mean by 'everyone' though. Asking senior managers and executives to prove that they're up to the job is one thing, asking your entire workforce to do it is clearly going to lead to a toxic work environment, and is highly unlikely to have the impact on workplace culture that it's intended to. It's quite an American corporate approach but the working culture in the UK doesn't necessarily lend itself to that sort of thing. I doubt it's true anyway, but I would be concerned if their big plan for reviving a failing football club was to make a load of receptionists and customer service staff redundant.

 

[SLAVEN BILIC]

Even if this reapplying rumour is true it’ll be targeted towards big positions. The staff in the cafe over at the people’s hub will be alright. In fact is all of that stuff, free school, hub etc part of EiTC which is a separate entity, so the Friedkins can’t swing the axe??

Also, they’re not gonna fire stewards, if anything they’ll be hiring more because of the ground move. Box office staff, again will probably be expanded not reduced. They’ve all been trained up for the move, it’ll cost extra money to rehire an entire workforce and start from scratch And lose any knowledge of systems etc. That isn’t happening with a massive ground switch about to happen.

Which leaves catering staff and the club shops. The latter are Sodexo and the former are Fanatics, also out of Friedkins control.

In terms of Sodexo. Those people may need to reapply for their roles with the new catering firm. For the club shop staff, that only changes if the Friedkins bring the merchandise and marketing arm back in to club control or if they find a different partner.

 

[RomanReigns]

Can’t be long now surely

 

[Exeter_Gently]

It depends what we mean by 'everyone' though. Asking senior managers and executives to prove that they're up to the job is one thing, asking your entire workforce to do it is clearly going to lead to a toxic work environment, and is highly unlikely to have the impact on workplace culture that it's intended to. It's quite an American corporate approach but the working culture in the UK doesn't necessarily lend itself to that sort of thing. I doubt it's true anyway, but I would be concerned if their big plan for reviving a failing football club was to make a load of receptionists and customer service staff redundant.

They've got offices all round the world so you'd imagine they'd be pretty sympathetic to work places cultures.

You're right in a sense that Jenny the photocopier girl in theory should be left well alone you'd certainly imagine other people at the club will be looking over their shoulder.

Hopefully Dave Prentice is one.

 

[Exeter_Gently]

Even if this reapplying rumour is true it’ll be targeted towards big positions. The staff in the cafe over at the people’s hub will be alright. In fact is all of that stuff, free school, hub etc part of EiTC which is a separate entity, so the Friedkins can’t swing the axe??

Also, they’re not gonna fire stewards, if anything they’ll be hiring more because of the ground move. Box office staff, again will probably be expanded not reduced. They’ve all been trained up for the move, it’ll cost extra money to rehire an entire workforce and start from scratch And lose any knowledge of systems etc. That isn’t happening with a massive ground switch about to happen.

Which leaves catering staff and the club shops. The latter are Sodexo and the former are Fanatics, also out of Friedkins control.

In terms of Sodexo. Those people may need to reapply for their roles with the new catering firm. For the club shop staff, that only changes if the Friedkins bring the merchandise and marketing arm back in to club control or if they find a different partner.

My thoughts really.

 

[Lob]

Even if this reapplying rumour is true it’ll be targeted towards big positions.

Yeah that is what i think they will do as well, after all it is those people that have been responsible for the business being where it is today. I doubt it will be aimed towards ordinary folks who's contribution has had no effect whatsoever on the business failing.

 

[Jacko93]

Yeah it should be interesting seeing what happens. They are buying a 'failing' business that has been very badly ran in all areas top to bottom and is in massive debt and financial chaos. That alone gives them grounds for restructuring all areas that require it. It would be impossible to improve the business and make it sustainable and profitable without doing so.

When you think of it that way it makes sense that they will be identifying problematic areas and in some cases maybe immediate redundancy and in other cases asking people to reapply for their positions in which they may be made redundant and the position filled by someone more qualified and competent.

It is going to be an interesting period no matter what happens. Looking forward to it whatever comes to pass to be honest. Been stagnant too long now.

This is where I'm not sure it can be done. You don't make people redundant, you make their roles redundant. You can't make a person redundant and then fill the role, because the role doesn't exist. You can't simply rename it either as you would have to prove material differences. It could be a golden handshake, a mutual agreement, but redundancy isn't as simple as it seems. You also have to have a redundancy period which is a minimum of 45 days, during which you or your employer can identify different roles for you.

Let's just hope that when they come in they identify areas of improvement and go about tackling that with minimal impact on people's lives, but maximum impact on the business.

 

[Moderatelywarmwater]

This lot don’t seem amazing and have made a dog’s dinner of Roma. But they are solvent, not being actively pursued for money laundering etc and they aren’t on the brink of financial collapse.

Which is progress, and the best option we have open to us.

 

[PKwalnuts]

If they are going to make everyone reapply for their jobs, it sounds already like a really awful workplace environment.

Until we learn that Dorris the tea lady of 30 years is a kopite and only kept on because she gave Blue Bill top marks on the employee Sat surveys

 

[brieverton]

I doubt if anyone senior and earning six figures + is going to be asked reapply for their jobs. If TFG decide to move any of those out, it would be on mutually agreed, handshake terms I would assume.

Their initial statement when assuming control at Roma did confirm they had accepted the resignations of some indivuduals.

And for middle and junior staff then making those folk reapply isn't going to change the dial on strategy and performance, so you'd question if it was worthwhile.

I'm all for change from the top down because that's where our issues have been, not from the bottom up where they have not, at least in a business and financial sense.